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By Kentish Man
#73304
Papasmurf, why not leave the solenoid as is, make up a short cable (approx. 2" long), on one end crimp on a ring terminal, and the other end a female insulated terminal. Fit the ring terminal to the "B" battery terminal, the other end to the right hand 30A terminal. (You will have already connected the solenoid coil connections.)

Now you have a fused output that can be used for an accessory, i.e. heated handlebar grips. Just plug into the spare terminal.

Note: this will be permanently "live" regardless of ignition key.

Hope this helps.

Ex Man of Kent now Kentish Man!
By Paul G
#73308
Apologies if I am misunderstanding your post, but only a thick wire goes to the battery positive. The other thick wire goes to the starter motor. The thin wires, one comes from the starter button, the other goes to earth, probably via the clutch switch. I do not have an electra x but that is how these things usually work. If you take the thin wire to the battery the starter will be permanently engaged. You could use the 30 amp fuse (suitably reduced) as the main bike fuse to safe space?
By Paulk
#73315
Concur with Paul G, the spade connections are the "control" (in pairs???) and the large studs are main starter power.
By Paulk
#73316
Adam, If you remove the fuse there will be no current to the energising coils therefore the solenoid will never operate because there is no circuit (according to the notes on the photo). As Paul G explains the 12v "power" comes from the starter button to either of the pair closest to the big studs around the energising coils, through the fuse and out on the other pair of spade connectors and eventually to earth. The act of energising the internal coils make a magnet that throws (pulls???) a large connector between the two large studded contacts allowing full battery power to the starter motor.
By Adam
#73318
Hi Paulk, from what’s been shown and described above and from several years’ personal experience as a field service plant electrician I conclude that, starting from the bottom of Papasmurfs picture, LARGE NUT TO LEFT, marked M, connect to appropriate terminal on starter motor. LARGE NUT TO RIGHT, marked B, Connect to battery positive. This terminal is also connected internally to the 30amp fuse which in turn gives a permanent (ignition not required to be on) feed to the TWO ¼ INCH SPADES for whatever purpose you fancy, maybe a socket for phone charger or torch or whatever. The fuse, fuse holder and large spades are not required for the starter motor to operate. The two SMALLER SPADES are there to energise the coil which in turn passes batt + power to the starter motor via terminal M, one spade terminal would be fed battery positive from the starter button and t’other would be permanently connected to earth, doesn’t matter which. If I knew how to post piccies I would provide a wee schematic for you. Happy New Year, Adam
By Paulk
#73319
Cool, so the control contacts are the two nearest the studs - now we all know. I must say the photo does not make that clear - well it does if you've seen them before. No pic req'd I now understand. Did seem odd to double up on the spade connectors :-)
By Paulk
#73320
con't - and the 30 amp fuse seemed big. Thanks for putting me straight and apologies if I've thrown anyone else into confusion.
By Alan R
#73328
Hi guys-------the answer was already given earlier in a thread headed}---- "Starter Solenoid Testing" with regard to a 12v supply being taken from the solenoid rather than the battery.......but many thanks to Adam for putting it in again..

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