This Forum is now CLOSED use the link to get more details viewtopic.php?f=4&t=13925
By SMLE
#78455
Since I purchased my CGT, a year ago last April, several local dealers have lost their RE franchise. Firstly, the dealer where I bought my CGT from lost it a few months later, stating that the owner didn't like the product. His words were, to them, along the lines of "the CGT is great, but didn't think much of the Bullet". The response, some time later was that, "sorry to see you don't like our products, etc, etc", or something like that. It turns out that over the, roughly, year leading up to that point they had only sold four RE's. They sell several different makes of bikes and scooters, most of which are cheaper than eve RE's, so guess which ones they sell the most of? The business seems to sell mainly to the younger generation and those needing transport to get to work it seems.

I was rather annoyed about their loss of franchise as my next RE was likely to come from them, but there was another, even closer dealer, but they lost the franchise too, it is said because RE wanted them to stock one of each of all the models that they made at the time, and, by different models, with the Bullet/Classic, that probably means all the different colours, which is quite a cost, both in money and space, for a small dealer.

Sometime later I hear that Midlands RE had lost theirs too, but I'm yet to hear anything, hearsay or otherwise, as to why.

Then we come to my Himalayan purchase, not from the Stafford dealer, but they do seem to sell quite a few RE's and have quite a nice display going on. It's not quite a corporate image, but perhaps halfway there. They have the space to have more stock and do such things. As far as I know they still have the franchise, but due to previously mentioned issues I bought my Himalayan from the closest dealer to me. I didn't want to due to past experiences, but so far all o.k. When discussing the recent (ish) loss of franchises they told me that they would only take on the RE franchise if there were no other dealers in the area, and in stating their case said, "otherwise you'll loose a lot of sales".

I don't know how many Bullets/Classics they have sold, but from early March to mid April this year they had sold 15 Himalayans.

Some of the above is hearsay, but putting 2 and 2 together and priobaly making 5 (wink), it does seem to read like some lame excuses have been used to remove some franchises to perhaps benefit one???

Chris.
By Rattlebattle
#78457
Hitchcock’s sent me a copy of the Classic Bike supplement with whatever I ordered most recently (IIRC their chain adjusters - don’t bother; I reinstalled the snail cams straight away). It is clear that RE are trying to emulate HD in having premium retail outlets (the latest is apparently in Watford). These seem like hipster hangouts, a far cry from the independent dealer I bought my LE Despatch from nearly three years ago. He packed up REs well over a year ago, having a line of unsold C5s, a B5 and 3 CGTs that stuck like glue to the showroom floor. He now sells Husqvarnas, his core business being dyno tuning bikes - hardly a good match for RE. The supplement mentioned that MotoGB is a family run firm. My guess is that any pressure emanates from RE itself. Who knows? I get the feeling that the CGT craze has passed; dealers now need to stock Himalayans and soon the new twins to have real success. I’m left with no local dealer, a key factor in why I bought one in the first place. Anyone not into home maintenance will want a decent dealer nearby. No problem for me as parts are invariably received the day after I order them but if not in the UK I wouldn’t consider one.
By SMLE
#78458
Recent looks at sales for the CGT showed that it was not as popular in the UK as folk may think it was. I must admit I was surprised.

Chris.
User avatar
By Chris [Stockport]
#78461
The new Interceptor is to be Easy like Sunday morning according to the adverts.
From the way it's written I think that's a good thing, but what does it mean? Could anybody help me with that? Ta.
By Jamesy
#78462
Sunny Sunday morning green laner.Country pub stop.late breakfast.Park the bike so you can sit and admire it while you eat.
By Rattlebattle
#78463
Too literal methinks. Having read what Big Sid has said about the future direction of RE I believe what is intended is to have non-threatening bikes that can be ridden by A2 licence holders, new riders and women. The twins have slip-assist clutches that are light to operate and prevent rear wheel lockup and have gentle power curves, with modest outright power. They are simple to ride and inexpensive to service. They are neither big nor heavy. He is on record as saying that he won’t venture into big bike territory, wanting to capture the medium size sector rather than compete head on with Triumph. The twins are really competing more with Moto-Guzzi 750 twins than Triumph 1200 twins.
By Bullet Whisperer
#78467
Incidentally, in that Classic Bike supplement, regarding that sprint bike based on the new twins it states 'They're a little vague when it comes to power, but there's over 100 BHP at the rear wheel at 7040 RPM with stage 1 nitrous. They're quite specific about the torque, though, 83.8 lb/ft at 5840 RPM.' From this, using HP = Torque x RPM divided by 5252, I can tell anyone who may wish to know that the BHP is precisely 93.18 BHP.
By Mick H
#78468
I was chatting to a guy at a burger van near Hinckley a month or so ago who owned a company that converts bikes to police or military spec. He said he had just been to RE Bruntingthorpe on a trade do to meet Sid & co. Very impressed apparently. He's in the process of converting a twin to police trim for a show,but wasn't optimistic about sales due to police cuts. He did however say he was so heartened by the Bruntingthorpe setup that he was thinking of buying one himself-- praise indeed!
By macg4
#78470
All noted, food for thought this "vision of the future". However,if you are the proud owner of an Enfield, it is universally accepted that a certain amount of routine spannering is inevitable. Now that's fine for us baby boomers, at home in a workshop environment, but the average millennial snowflake struggles to open a socket set, let alone use it in any meaningful way.So, given the ever decreasing agency presence,this leaves new customers at the mercy of other "motorcycle engineers" and You Tube videos. It can't end well.. REgards
By 2cvandy
#78471
As a long term Harley owner,,,,,,(29 years and counting) I'd say we don't need to worry to much about RE's vision for the future. Yes, most franchised Harley dealers are over priced boutiques, and yes, lots of their shop staff don't know one end of a bike from t'other. (there are 1 or 2 exceptions obviously, but they are rare). But, that hasn't stopped genuine enthusiasts buying em, it hasn't stopped the healthy club scene, and it hasn't stopped young riders geting into Harleys and learning to maintain them. If, like me, you're not a fan of these emporiums, best advice is to ignore em,,,,,,,,,,

Shop for accessories at Hitchcocks Motorcycles