This Forum is now CLOSED use the link to get more details viewtopic.php?f=3&t=13924#p102587
By ChrisD
#71744
Adrian. I too went the steel conrod route and roller bigend for my 535cc. You must get it balanced as only a small amount out-of-balance means LOTS of destructive vibration.

When new I measured the balance factor on my 1996 bike (now 535cc) it was about 68%. When I fitted the steel conrod, I found the OEM conrod was ~20 thou longer than expected, perhaps due to stretch! I followed some advice (NOT our hosts) and didn’t re-balance the new conrod. The destructive vibrations caused by the balance factor being out by ~45grammes, cost me the drive side crank pin, stator and other stuff. When we then balanced the crank, I followed the reported advice by Fritz Egli (British Bike Magazine, Oct 1994) and set the balance factor to 61-62%. That is definitely smoother up to ~3500rpm but doesn’t damp enough vibration at higher revs making acceleration through the gears quite unpleasant. I now have to replace the piston because of a dropped valve when the aluminium valve retainer snapped. This was caused, we think, by the OEM tappet adjuster being offset to the pushrod by a few degrees which resulted in the pushrod flexing continually leading to valve bounce. I shall set the balance factor now to 63% and advice on results.

Cheers, ChrisD
By Bullet Whisperer
#71746
I have never changed the balance factor when swapping from alloy to forged steel conrods and have never had a problem with vibration as a result, likewise with swapping pistons. Also, when I lighten my crank assemblies by a few pounds at least, I restore their original balance factor, then fit whatever conrod, piston etc which goes into that particular build. Before I get condemmed for this, I once perched a cup of tea on the seat of the 350 racer [when it was still 90mm stroke with one of my modified Redditch cranks inside] and revved it to over 7000 rpm and it rippled quite a bit, but stayed there. TRUING the crank is of far more importance to me, than balancing, although obviously this matters, too, but to a lesser degree for me at least.
User avatar
By Tomshayes1
#71756
Hi guys.. Wow thanks for all the responces... The bikes only done 3500 miles.. Bottom end seems ok.. Carb is 32 mm..

Tom
By Tomshayes
#71757
Assuming that I go for the steel rod upgrade.. What's the feeling on the necessity of going for the roller bearing.. I wont be racing but just having the occasional blast for fun.. Obviously the cheaper option would suit me better ha ha
By Bullet Whisperer
#71761
Hi Tom, you could just fit the British made alloy conrod and a plain big end and it would be a big step in the right direction, I have fitted at least a couple of these for owners over the years. Regards, Paul.
By Tomshayes
#71763
Ahh Cheers Paul.

Would a compression plate help?.. I am also upgrading oil pumps

Thanks

Tom
By Bullet Whisperer
#71764
Hi Tom, if I wanted to build a good all round engine for a reasonable price, I would fit the British conrod, plain big end, decent mains, alloy barrel, American so-called 9:1 piston, port the head and use the standard cams, with the inlet retarded by 1 tooth. The standard oil pumps are up to it, if in good shape, the high capacity ones are a better option if a roller big end is fitted - there will be less strain on the oil pump drive train and more lubrication and cooling from the extra oil being flung around inside the flywheels. Regards, Paul.

Shop for accessories at Hitchcocks Motorcycles