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By Adrian
#67826
From your trials of different carbs you have shown that your original throttle valve is too lean at 2.5 and you need the richer 2.0. Either you need to persuade your friend to sell you carb number 2 because what he REALLY wants to do is to upgrade to an AMAL Monobloc, a Dell'Orto or a genuine Mikuni, or else just buy your own number 2.0 throttle slide.



You mentioned swapping air filters a while back. Although simply relocating the filter would probably not have any effect, if your old air filter was more restrictive than the one you have now, the leaner 2.5 throttle slide would have been better for the old filter. But if your new filter lets more air through the carburettor, the previous settings are now TOO lean, which is why, when you substitute a richer 2.0 slide for the original 2.5, the correct mixture is restored for that part of the throttle opening range.



Carb number 3 will make a nice paper weight



A.
By Simplo
#67848
Good news, at least until today!
Saturday night I had a very heavy dinner in an Indian restaurant and, even if all was very good, I had a hard night trying to digest. So I had very strange and rough dreams.
Suddendly Ganesha appeared and he show me something glowing in his hand: it a was a main jet!

The next morning I disassembled my original carburator once angain and installed on it the main jet of the third carburatore (the new one from India) and the needle from Hitchcock.

Miracle!!

All seems to work as it should!


I had 3 tests during the day and all of them where nice!

Today and tomorrow I'll test again.

Once I'm sure it workd well I will start to try to understand the logic of this thing... byt maybe, also, I will accept is as a "Bullet's Mystery".


Anyway I have to thank many many many times all of you that assisted and suggested me, reading all my post with unbelievable patience and passion!


And, yes, I think the only useful function of the third carburator (once his main jet was transplanted) is as paper weitgh or door holder! :)
By Andy M
#67861
Glad you got sorted. A good read, so your pain has hopefully left info behind that will help others. I'm afraid it only convinces me I love EFI. As a member of the digital generation I'll take a flashcode reading or OBD reader every time. Is the final answer that carb 1 had a bad slide? I got lost in all the parts swapping and the bit where tea leaves and chicken entrails were read :)

Andy
By Simplo
#67875
Hi Andy, you're not the only one who lost in this thread... I'm the first one!!
I can't say what is the problem, 'til now.
The original carb is now working with his slide, but with new needle and main jet.
Yesterday I tried to start the engine once again. It worked but it seems it needs more time to get warm and run well.
It seems to me mixture is yet a little lean, so I'll try to set float at original 21mm I found first time I opened the carb, instead the 25mm setted now.
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By Freddo
#67884
I have never owned an EFI motorcycle.

All the eight motorcycles that I have owned had carburettors.

I never touch the carburettors. All my engine problems have been caused by seized big ends, mechanical points, in line fuel filters, spark plugs and bad stators.

While I am riding, my mates with EFI motorcycles are remapping their ECUs, reading their OBDs and fitting new chips.

My Royal Enfield 350cc Thunderbird has a AVL engine and a Ucal-SE/BS 26-X5 CV carburettor.
By Jassie
#67888
Hi simplo , I had the exact same problem with my interceptor last week. The carbs are brand new Amals. They idled great for few days then only would idle with chock on. I had a feeling that the pilot circuit was plugged. I simply took that air fuel mixture screw out and blow compressed air into that hole. One of the carbs started to idle while the other took few more tries. In about 10 minutes the bike was idling fine. I suspect that you have a partially blocked idle jet or the drillings. I would try again. May be soak the whole carb in carb cleaning fluid dis assembled of course. I got lucky I didn't even have to remove the carbs off the bike to clean the pilot circuit. Hope this helps. Its usually a good idea to have a filter in between the tank and carb. Also when parking your bike for a long time mix in some gas conditioning fluid so the carb don't gum up.
Jessie.
By scotty
#67890
Hi this post is getting sillier and sillier , is someone yanking our chain on this topic its getting bigger than Ben Hur, if so congratulations on a great stir.
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