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By jefrs
#61593
Clement, yes it probably is the seat springs. I replaced mine with steel brackets and the wobbly disconnected sensation went away.



The rear shocks are more than adequate to soak up the road, the seat springs are more there for looks, they really only belong on a rigid frame.
By Craig
#61595
Hi Clement.. I have a American chief style seat which was Mounted Quite High up and On Scissor Springs..The Ride was nice with out the Pogo effect of Normal Springs ,How ever when I tried Normal Springs i too had a perceived wobble & weave (Mainly at Speed) in an effort to lower my high set up I made the seat more ridged (Fixed)and every thing feels a lot better..I think we forget how much we Ride a bike with our "Arse"from road feed back to steering by lean (Cheek pressure)So do Try a deferent spring set up as well .. Cheers All Craig
By 2cvandy
#61602
Hi Clement, I've got the same seat and have been experimenting a bit with positioning and springing in an attempt to discover why my Enfield causes backache.

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I tried solid mountings but have re-fitted the springs now as I'm confident that wasn't the cause of my problem (see thread - "footrests"). TBH I much prefer the feel with the springs in place, makes the seat much more comfortable, IMHO. One thing I have done though is to modify the front mounting so the seat sits right down low, almost touching the frame, it means the seat appears to slope forwards but it levels up nicely with my 16 stone on board.

Sorry to say though, I think the wobble is entirely down to the loose nut holding the handlebars,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
By Gwilly
#61604
I'm glad that you've took the time to check out steering and wheel bearings..

Swing arm and rear shocks sound, then what else can it be?

I've had old Ernie for so long that when i think about it, the front end is light and flighty and i guess i've just gotten used to it..

Over inflated front tyre will cut down the contact patch and in my case the wide scramble type handlebars exaggerates every slight pressure applied..

In fact it is difficult to ride one handed on B road surfaces as it bucks and slews at every imperfection in the road..

Yet if i take both hands off it runs straight, so figure that one.. Shorter bars required perhaps..


By jefrs
#61605
I simply made some steel brackets up to replace the springs. I wanted to set the seat as low as possible but obviously you can make it any height you like. Digging around on youtube etc you can find many instances where they have made the seat solid and found the ride more comfortable. What ever brackets you use must be able to fully support your weight without bending.
By jefrs
#61607
Gwilly - I ride many C and D roads and find pretty much the same. We want some weight on over the front so we lean on the bars, it's no chopper where you hang back on them. Trials bars should be ridden elbows-out which allows them to flex better, it you're actually using them for off-road they need to be set well forwards so you can stand. Not much chance of that with these foot pegs.



I've set my stock bars so I have a slight lean onto them so I am not applying too much pressure onto my wrists and shoulders, this is to suit me. It is a fairly neutral position where at lower speed I am leaning onto the bars but at high speed pulling back. Therefore I am only putting light pressure onto the bars and can usually take a hand off unless the road is too 'interesting'. Result reduced strain on shoulders and back, and can ride the bike for a couple of hours without needing to take a break.



Handlebar and control position is very personal so it is probably a case of moving something a little at a time to find the perfect position. The Bullet/Classic riding position is traditional british roadster go to work wearing a suit sit up and beg, it is not a cruiser and these days the riding position is not the norm but can be very comfortable as was intended.



Tyre pressure - consensus seems to be 27psi in the front like Avon says (not RE's 18psi). The contact patch is reduced but braking and cornering is improved. 18psi is like running with a flat tyre, collapsed sidewall, that RE handbook pressure may well have originated with 50s/60s cross-ply rubber.
By vince
#61608
Hi, if the seat front mount is at all loose your whole body will sway and induce a wobble. replacing the springs the saddle is more solid to the bike. Got into an almighty tank slapper on my v twin indian because the bolt became loose .there must be no play or flexing in the saddle. Vince.
By vince
#61609
Hi, if the seat front mount is at all loose your whole body will sway and induce a wobble. replacing the springs the saddle is more solid to the bike. Got into an almighty tank slapper on my v twin indian because the bolt became loose .there must be no play or flexing in the saddle. Vince.

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