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By fishermanferg
#6599
advice needed the battery in my thunderbird 350 kickstart model is not holding the charge very good ,and I am thinking of replacing it ,the one on the bike looks small for a 12v its a ybl5bl I take it this is the correct one ,but is there a better one that I could use .
By Craig
#61393
Hello Ferg..If yours is Kick Start Only..Then IMHO any battery that fits should do (This Site has an Excellent Choice) I and a few Others use RS:Sealed Fire Alarm type Battery's Cheap n Cheerful new or Free 2nd Hand from the Works Fire A;arm Check...Of course if you are Electric Start then Quality and Amp H count(This Site has an Excellent Recommended Choice)..But I have run Points only Bikes on a 9V PP3 Eveready to get home...So My Vote RS:Battery. ;0)
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By PeteF
#61395
I'm having good results from the Absorbed Glass Mat type.
By fishermanferg
#61398
ok thanks for the replies I had my optimate on it for a few days when I took it off the battery read about 12.5 two days later it was down at 9 something volts
By Steve T
#61409
I have the RS battery see photo woks fine on my 2002 500 Bullet
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By bogie
#61579
I'm with Peter F on this one, I fitted a Glass Matt battery to my 350 Bullet two years ago and have forgotten all about it.
Never charged it, in the winter when the bike is off the road I run it once a month just to keep it up.It has never let me down.
Ray.
By jefrs
#61591
It is not holding charge. Have you checked the electrolyte level?
By jefrs
#61611
I did some sums ;)



A lead-acid cell is 2.1V so a "12-volt battery" is 12.6V when new and fully charged. If it drops to below 11V in use it is pretty much shot. Unless the cells have dried out - check that first of all.



Even a kick-start only needs to be able to run the lights and ancillaries off the battery at times, so add all the watts up and divide by 12, this is the current the battery needs to cope with. If it cannot cope with that current its volts drop (it's Ohm's Law), possibly to a level where the lights go dim and bike dies on you.



Example, if total power is 120 watts then you need to provide 10 amps. If the battery can only provide 5 amps then to satisfy Ohm's Law it will drop its volts until it can push some current through the resistance. The resistance is 120/100=1.2ohm Ohm's Law says E=IxR so you get 5x1.2 = 6V out of the battery and electronic ignition is certainly not going to like that.

True you have an alternator providing the power but the battery also acts as a voltage regulator, it will pull the system voltage down if it cannot cope, and if it is shot it can't cope.

Did I read somewhere that this bike has a 120W alternator, total load from lights and ancillaries is typically 120Watts so there is little left over to charge the battery. And if the battery is shot it will pull the volts down across the board. 9V is well shot. If you use a small battery and only ride in daylight all well and good but if you ride at night with an inadequate battery you may resurrect the prince of darkness.
By Revband
#61612
Oh dear, another unnecessary and inaccurate post designed to boost the posters ego, or just to try and confuse a simple question.
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By PeteF
#61613
"the battery also acts as a voltage regulator"
Not for long it won't Jefrs - just till it boils/melts.

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