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By Thack
#57369
nigelphoto writes: "Not good to mix either viscosity or brand - different additives can counter-act. "



Wait, wait a minute. So where has that remarkable assertion come from, then? Can we see some kind of referenced, respectable source for it?



No, I didn't think so.......
By papasmurf
#57370
I am losing the will to live reading this thread. In the manual it will state something like this for engine oil:- 15W 40 API SG, JASO MA T 903:MA spec.
The manufacturers name on the container is an irrelevance. The specification is the important bit.
By Gwilly
#57371
Yep Halfords classic 20-50w is the right stuff for the old style motors..

Is it my imagination or is it the same as the old Duckhams i used back in the the 60's?
Sure that was green colour as well..
By nigelphoto
#57401
Thank, only Royal Enfield's own manual advises not to mix brands - but I'm sure you know better.
By Beezabryan
#57404
The ubiquitous oily can of worms are open.
My only comment is - over the past 19 years of ownership our Bullet has had 20/50 in all sorts of brands, some UK, some European, some American. Bullet did not seem to mind so long as it had oil circulating around the important bits.
FFS chaps this is a rather agricultural lump we have not a highly strung race motor.
By Dennis C
#57411
Any oil is better than no oil, as for mixing them?, not given me any problem in over 50 years, that's me done on this one, oil threads can roll on forever, bit like an old bike with mixed oil really, ;-)

Clutch plate cement dissolves in oil?. never heard that one before nor had one fall to bits in oil.
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By Leon Novello
#57416
For the record: When I was a child and helping my father work on his 1926 Chevrolet; he would drain this pitch-black oil from the engine; then when he finished the job, pour it back into the engine. I never saw him ever put new oil in it, we were too poor. The engine ran very quietly and smoothly and he drove that utility thousands of miles across Queensland in the 1950`s.
By nigelphoto
#57418
An oil thread? We're on the slippery slope with this one . . . . Sorry, but someone had to say it!
By Thack
#57420
nigelphoto writes: "Thack, only Royal Enfield's own manual advises not to mix brands - but I'm sure you know better."



Dead right, mate: I'm an intellectual colossus, the likes of which are known but once in a generation.
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By Presto
#57422
Just for fun here are some notes I had reason to put together a while ago. We may as well all share the wisdom they contain! ;-)



All mineral oils are produced from the same basic petroleum feedstocks. Because the base oil is molecularly the same, different oil viscosities will not separate or react negatively to each other. If you're concerned about the oil performing exactly how it was designed, what ought not to be mixed are the various oil additive systems used between brands.



Oil additives include:
Anti-oxidants to prevent thickening at high operating temperatures; Oour-point depressants which lower the temperature of wax coagulation; Alkaline materials to neutralize acids formed during combustion; Rust and corrosion inhibitors; Detergents to reduce sludge and varnish; Dispersant additives to hold contaminants in suspension; Extreme pressure additives to prevent metal to metal contact under high loads; Viscosity index improvers in formulating muilt-grade (viscosity) oils.



The exact type and amount of these additives varies from brand to brand and, when mixed, may not function as efficiently as desired. Different viscosities of the same brand oil will have different amounts of viscosity index improvers (polymers), but otherwise the additive systems will be the same.



Oil companies give conflicting advice on mixing products – we didn’t see that coming, did we!!



"Can I mix different viscosity grades of motor oils?" "Yes. It is always advisable to not mix motor oil brands, however, different viscosity grades of the same brand motor oil are compatible. Be aware that mixing viscosity grades will turn out a product that is different in viscosity from either what was originally in the engine or what was added."



From Shell: "If you mix viscosity grades such as a 5W30 low-viscosity oil and a 10W40 higher-viscosity oil, it is reasonable to expect that the resulting product will have viscosity characteristics which are thicker than the 5W30, but thinner than the 10W40. This change does not reflect incompatibility - it's simply a re-balancing of the viscosity characteristics. In all other ways, the product should work as expected. But there's absolutely no danger about incompatibility resulting from mixing engine oils,"



Miller says: "We've tested all of our grades and brands, and we haven't observed any problems."



From Mobil: "For our customers to choose a viscosity grade, we recommend they follow the engine manufacturer's recommendations as indicated in their owner's manual. There is no need to mix two Mobil 1 viscosity grades when one will do; however, we see no problem mixing different SAE grades of Mobil 1 Tri-Synthetic series motor oils."

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