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By PeteF
#55007
I'm a Waxoyl man too. It very effective for plated surfaces if brushed on and wiped down to a thin film. Also good as an anti seize on fastenings.
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By Leon Novello
#55008
It doesn`t matter what you use. Any professional vehicle painter would use a special degreaser to remove years of car polish, wax, grease and oil etc from the surface, even if it is stripped right down to bare metal.
By 1950s Bulleteer
#55009
Thanks everybody for the input, sounds like they are both very good, with differing properties.
Leon, that is exactly what I wanted to hear about removeability.. The rust spots are on the wheel arches and I have just found some lovely chrome trims to go on them. Before I fit the trims I'll spray with ACF50, give a good dollop of waxoyl on top and then put on the trims, then I can come back to it when I can afford a full re-spray.
By jefrs
#55010
Waxoyl over ACF50?

The ACF50 may protect the rust from the Waxoyl.

Waxoyl can actually kill the rust spots if used as on the tin. ACF50 is more preventative than treatment.

If the rust spots (stone chips?) are visible then Fertan and spot paint. Hidden away up the inside then Waxoyl, but do let it cure before wiping away, like it what says on the tin, like degreasing first with spirits i.e. taking the ACF50 off. It's not really spray on and forget except inaccessible places, it does foam up for a while and fills tubes etc.
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By PeteF
#55017
"The ACF50 may protect the rust from the Waxoyl" Err, what does that mean Jefrs?

"Waxoyl can actually kill the rust spots if used as on the tin. - "Well, it might remove loose rust but it doesn't "kill" it (as in remove it down to clean metal)
"do let it cure before wiping away" - Waxoyl doesn't cure, the solvent evaporates leaving the waxy stuff behind. I've had completely hard old Waxoyl left in a tin and it comes back perfectly with white spirit (which is what I suspect their solvent is)
By DUFFEL
#55210
I tried using ACF50 once well the equivalent by Scot oil on the alloy parts such as timing cover and clutch cover but it just goes on like water and runs straight off ??
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By Presto
#55293
Duffell I don’t think ACF50 has an ‘equivalent’, certainly not Scott oil. I’m content to know that ACF50 is used to prevent corrosion inside air frames for the US airforce – so I guess it’ll do a similar job on the metal work of my bike – and wherever else I care to spray it. The parts sprayed actually look different for weeks – they look healthier!
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By ed.lazda
#55307
The Scottoiler "equivalent" -- F365 -- is a water-based emulsion. The crap and salt is meant to stick and be washed off easily, while the oil sits on and protects the metal, and builds up with repeated application. I never really got on with it, and IMHO ACF-50 is much better.
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By ed.lazda
#55308
The Scottoiler "equivalent" -- F365 -- is a water-based emulsion. The crap and salt is meant to stick and be washed off easily, while the oil sits on and protects the metal, and builds up with repeated application. I never really got on with it, and IMHO ACF-50 is much better.
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By Presto
#55313
I agree ed. One – of many – advantages of ACF50 over Scottoiler FS365 is that ACF50 is not water based and therefore is safe for use on electrics as well as metal surfaces.

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