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By Rattlebattle
#53185
There's plenty of slack in the ht lead on mine. I'm not sure that the wiring on mine is the same as the standard C5. It doesn't have an oval tool box and the layout of the ECU and fuses and relays in the tool box differs from that shown in the 2009 manual. The tank mounting too is completely different (and superior) to the earlier ones as the tank sits on rubber buffers a la Japanese style. One day I'll take the tank off to have a look see. I believe the head steady is mounted differently too. The root cause of my recent problem, I believe, is the failure at the factory to ensure that the tps connector positively clicked into place. I had a good chat to the mechanic, who is well past the first flush of youth and gave me some useful incite into the capabilities of the onboard diagnostics as opposed to the DOL. They have only been selling and servicing REs since April but they do a lot of tuning on a dyno and know their EFI stuff. I expect in time they'll get the hang of the more homespun elements of RE construction. I bet there are a lot of new RE dealers in the UK who are still learning that these are almost unique. Only Ural and Jawa spring to mind as alternatives in a similar vein, though both of course are in many other ways completely different.
By jefrs
#53190
What model bike have you got there?
By nigelphoto
#53192
Rattlebattle - the discrepancy between your C5 sat in the garage before your very eyes and the bits the workshop manual says it should have, is 'Jugaad'. If you understand Jugaad, then you can forgive anything. The Indian prime Minister even made a speech recently saying that Indian manufacturing had to modernise and put Jugaad behind it. Unfortunately Royal Enfield is the very essence of Jugaad. So what is Jugaad?

“Jugaad is a colloquial Hindi word that can mean an innovative fix or a simple work-around, most commonly used to describe enterprising street mechanics. This meaning is often used to signify creativity to make existing things work or to create new things with meagre resources. The concept expresses a need to do what needs to be done, without regard to what is conventionally supposed to be possible. Jugaad is increasingly accepted as a management technique and is recognised as an acceptable form of frugal engineering. Companies in India are adopting Jugaad as a practise to reduce R&D costs; Jugaad also applies to any kind of creative and out-of-the-box thinking or 'life hacking' which maximises resources for a company and its stakeholders.” Definition above derived from several sources but having just completed the 7,500 mile service on my 2011 C5 I have first hand experience of exactly what it means: viz nothing ordered from the parts catalogue is what actually turns up in the post, a total mish-mash of thread sizes, pitch etc some fasteners fit neither metric nor imperial spanners, workshop manual illustrations and specs which bear absolutely no resemblance to my motorcycle, or indeed any other whatsoever. I now understand and even welcome this philosophy as it encourages me to add further bodges (sorry, creative and innovative solutions to technical situations!) and when I encounter examples on my C5 I nod sagely, smile and say to myself (with just a residual sigh) Ah, Jugaad!
By ric
#53472
Jugaad, often mistaken for Buggered.
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By Scalyback
#53473

Use it to your advantage on an iron barreled bullet, it will expect it.



roadside emergency tool kit,



small hammer

two differing sizes of screwdriver (One very large for levering)

11/16 whitworth ring spanner (doubles as second hammer)

baked bean can (repair material)
cable ties in various sizes

no.3 Meccano outfit

pocket knife.



There you go! Fix your Enfield at the roadside and it will respect you!
By Beezabryan
#53474
"The root cause of my recent problem, I believe, is the failure at the factory to ensure that the tps connector positively clicked into place. "
And you paid the hourly rate for a manufacturing fault to be corrected?
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By Scalyback
#53475

Nigelphoto are you trying AF (across flats) spanners or whitworth?



Only I have a french water pump from the 1920's or earlier, metric thread with whitworth head sizes.

If not, get yourself the large and medium Lucas girder spanner off fleabay, they seem the best engineered of any, with virtually zero tolerance for wobble. I swear by them not at them, and both my enfields carry them.



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Get good ones though, hell knows what happened to these ones. Rolls Royce and Bently's had these in their toolkits.
By Michael
#53476
Jugaad = bodge = gets-you-home-and-if-it-holds-then-it-becomes-THE-RIGHT-THING-TO-DO... The manual doesnt match another version of the same manual BTW :) Never mind one bike matching another!
By nigelphoto
#53477
Scalyback - Full set of Metric and WW/BSF spanners. For instance 24mm castle nut on rr spindle is 7-10 thou different across the flats. And just to think, a few threads ago on here I gave a homily on ISO9001 operating at Chennai - I'm going into the garden to eat worms!
By jefrs
#53485
Bodging is the traditional art of making furniture without any measurement tools i.e by turning chair legs by sizing one against the next, it originated in and around Amersham, infamous for ye olde wobbly chair manufacturing.

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