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By Therut
#5705
Hello I have just bought a Condor A350 and soon found
That spares are like chickens teeth I am desperate
To find a pair of brake shoes if anyone could point me in the
Right direction it would be much appreciated
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By Scalyback
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Sorry, I have no idea about spares, but have loved these bikes for years. I hereby repost this article so others can see then too!

(Therut, hope you don't mind too much!)


Swiss Army Condor A350

A scaleyback article



The beauty of a specific bike is usually defined by 'In the eye of the beholder.' But the Swiss Army Condor A350, comes under the heading of 'Near to tears beautiful', for those who like army bikes.


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They were manufactured between 1972 and 1978 (when the factory 'closed it's doors') by the condor cycle company, being built in Switzerland, but using de-tuned Ducati 350 single engines.


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There were only 3000 Condor A350's made, as Switzerland is a small country, making these army chuggers a very rare sight indeed.



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They even had their own complete support trailers which contained just everything.



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The swiss army cared for them so well that they lasted in service for many years, the last being pensioned off in 2001.





They were right gear shift with the kickstart on the left hand side!



details might be useful here...



Manufacturer Condor SA, Courfaivre

Military Service Specialised military model supplied to the Swiss armed forces in 1973, for solo despatch and general liaison duties.

Military equipment Rear carry rack, leather panniers, sub-marine support brackets, additional masked lighting, all-over service livery.

Engine type Ducati -Condor, vertical ohc single-cylinder capacity: 340 cc 76 x 75 mm

Comp, ratio 8.2 : 1

Output 16.6 hp at 5000 rpm

Starting left foot kick-start

Carburettor single Dell'Orto type VHB 27 AD

Electrics 6V, 70 Watt

Clutch Multi-plate, wet

Gearbox Foot change, 5-speed

Final Exposed chain

Frame & Wheels

Type duplex cradle, tubular construction

Front forks telescopic, hydraulic damping

Rear forks trailing, helical sprung

Brakes internal expanding drums, 200 mm diameter front and rear

Tyre size 3.25 x 18"front, 3.50 x 18"rear, road pattern



Later Ducati had the engines made by a company in Spain, only difference is they do not have 'Made in Italy' on them!



And of course, Switzerland having many mountains, the bikes were expected to get around them better than a sure footed goat!



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Here, a bunch of happy swiss guys wearing 'Picasso' camouflage, pose with their snow covered Condors.



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Mind you, wasn't always cold!


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There was a bracket and strap each side to hold the rider's (and passenger's) rifle


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Apart from despatch riding, they were used to put up for temporary signage for military excercises.


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And also for the military police. Taken in 1999, these bikes have sadly neared the end of their service life, but are still in excellent mechanical and visual condition.




They are still around!



Many of these bikes made it into preservation, with the Swiss army taking the unusual step of selling parts to the owners as required. This was found to be more economical than either junking or selling them as a bulk lot!



Even with indicators fitted, a Condor A 350 is still a very stunning ride, that does not fail to turn heads.


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If you ever do come across one of these, take a look under the seat...


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where the documents live...


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You should find a record of every single trip that the bike made during it's army career!


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Oh, one last thing... The engines were so incredibly quiet, that the swiss patrols could just drive up to people without them realising it!


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So that is scaly's guide to the condor A350. A beautiful motorcycle! And one that is sorely missed as the last army bike made in Switzerland. (They use BMW's now!)

By WDCO42
#52440
Hello Therut,

The best of both worlds : a Ducati with swiss engineering...
If I remember, the brakes were the same as the italian single models. So you'll certainly find what you need on Ebay Italia, Ebay.ch or the one in Spain.
Hope it will help you
Claude
By jefrs
#52441
I ponder the use of "sub-marine brackets" as Switzerland doesn't have a navy let alone submarines.
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By Scalyback
#52442
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Swiss don't have a navy??? Ruddy cheek!



They got 10 patrol boats for the big lakes ...



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AND, An aircraft carrier as well!



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They are very proud of their small but official navy.
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By Scalyback
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Oh, the boxer A580, oh don't! I don't have room!




Swiss Condor A 580 and A750

The Swiss Condor boxers were the A580 and A750. The A750 was a combination version, although some A580's had them as well.



here are a few pics of the A580



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Firstly, EVERYBODY is in the swiss military, either army, airforce or medical. Every male adult does basic training and then a two week refresher every year until the age of forty. You take you rifle and ammunition and store it at home with you. This explains why there is no problem having a rifle on your bike! (except the last pic, think it's a bit of wood! LOL!)




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Swiss guys like to have fun too! (usually when no one is looking!)



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Of course, many of these bikes still exist and are treasured possessions in Switzerland. But with the Swiss excessive thing about neatness and cleanliness, unless you are away from home, you never leave your bike outside where it could get rained on and dirty.






Condor A750, which is the Swiss army combination.






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Very proudly made in Switzerland.



Hope this was interesting to some of you.



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By Scalyback
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Apparently, the Condor A350 used Grimeca wheels and brakes according to the article in the link below. Hope this is helpful.



Bike Furious article


By jefrs
#52454
;) The Swiss Army maintain a 'Lakes Flotilla'. The British Army operates more boats than the Royal Navy and more aircraft than the RAF does aeroplanes (sp!). Switzerland does have a civil merchant navy. No submarines.

Sub-machine racks perhaps?



Nice bikes :)

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