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[greaser]

Hi grunda12, Yes I am aware of the warranty issue, but that dosnt really bother me I have had all powerful sports bikes, but now at the codger stage so gone back to the old school café racers. I had the original 250GT in 1966 & loved it & it was much faster than this current 2014 535 GT, the Indians have got the look right but sadly lacking modern day performance for A 500cc machine, its pretty typical of Asian built products ! I did not know that they also had a weak bottom end, but again not surprised. At the moment I am thinking of fitting the new Motad exhaust, the Air K&N filter, the power commander, & maybe a 17t front sprocket [the standard is 18t] I feel the gearing is too high & the 17t would get it revving quicker.

[Alan R]

[Alan R]

Hello GREASER--------have I missed the start of this thread somewhere ??--- OK,in response then to the above posting}--- That's a 5.5% INCREASE in rpm you're proposing...and for ALL rotating parts, remember..If you want to do that--especially with a large single cylinder engine-- then you've got to start shedding weight somewhere in order to keep the mass/momentum down to an acceptable level and re-balance the crank( or go multi-cylinder !!)....Then there's the corresponding increase in gas flow to make allowances for, etc........ Mechanical reliability will soon become an issue as well....Better to take the accepted route for more performance and go UP 1 tooth to 19t and tune for TORQUE........With regards to the Warranty cover }--- OK, it might not be an issue for you as an individual; that's your private decision to make but consider the fact that the only tangible way any of us consumers have at getting a message through to a manufacturer like the modern-day Enfield people, is via their profit margins.....And Warranty claims( with the associated paperwork) do just that --and very effectively as well..........Could you not just hold-off with all your mods, run the bike in standard trim util the Warranty expires, and then go to town with your ideas ??

[greaser]

Hi Alan.
The other part of this thread is below on another topic "535 continental GT"

Not sure about your idea of a 19t front sprocket that will make the already high gearing even higher, the idea is to get the engine revving Quicker, but now you have got thinking of reliability with RE,this is only the 2nd RE I have had my first was 250 GT in 1966 & had not bother with that but that's when we built them.

I also have a slightly tuned Triumph Thruxton...BC Preditor cans, Air box removed, K&N cone Air Filter,SAI removed,Triumph re-map, iridium plugs, icon rear springs,it goes like stink...
Not that I expect the same performance from the RE ,obviously, but as it in standard Tune its just not good enough by a long way for a modern bike, for Europe I just don't know why the Indians did not do the job right & charge a bit more for the bike, to call it a café "Racer" is a joke

[apparently lucky eddie]

I can't help wondering WHY your have this bike. You said in your last post, in so many words, that you'd done the go-faster thing and now wanted a plodder. Well now you've got one and you want it to go faster. We all know the performance of Enfields is pretty pathetic, feeble, laughable even, we don't need telling that. Most of us here like to tinker, maybe make them quicker, maybe make them more reliable, maybe just stop them disintigrating into a pile of rust. They are what they are. If you want a quick big single there are plenty of Velos, Goldies, or, more my cuppa T, Ducatis out there. Probably best you move the Enfield on and try something else, there are plenty of other options. GB Motorcycles have a rather nice Norton Model 30 International for sale at the moment, could be just what you're after (and, just for a laugh, they've put Avon Skidmasters on it! What wags they are). Oh yes, there is the matter of the 22 and 1/2 grand too.

[Alan R]

Hello GREASER------------ First, please re-read mine and the other postings( especially with regards to the engine "revving faster".)..What we are trying to get across is the fact that, in standard trim these are NOT speed machines (not when compared to any of the major Japanese products that is ) but more for the A-and B- roads in general......Sure you can go on a Motorway, and cruise all day at 70mph----but expect it to start showing some signs of distress sooner rather than later ( Remember, we're talking "As supplied" here.).......Now our hosts have a very long experience down the years of not only supplying standard and tuning parts, but also of actual race experience also( Haven't forgot you, Paul Henshaw)and I'm confident that they will tell you also that to ask the standard engine to rotate even faster just to up the bikes performance is a no-no...... Might I ask (Politely, of course) if you have any Automotive Engineering skills or tuning knowledge ??.... I ask this because from your other thread you mention about taking your bike to a Workshop or Dealer who is Enfield knowledgeable..... From this I deduce that maybe you don't understand what I meant by}----"Tune for TORQUE" ??............I have 2 Classic 500 Bullets in a "mild" state of tune---- both of which are pulling a 19t sprocket with ease...........If you want to experience a 500cc single with very high gearing then have a chat with a BSA DBD34 Goldstar owner with regards to driving in City traffic............I hope you're not offended by any of this..We all have your "Enfield enjoyment" at heart.......PS}--- I'm 65 and have designed, built, tuned and raced Speedway (500cc JAP and JAWA)and Grass Track ( 250 C15/B25, Bultaco, 350 Montessa, 500 4-stud JAP, JAWA )over a 25 year span-----------not now though, 'cos I don't BOUNCE as well as I used to !! LoL !!.....Yours helpfully-----------Alan R

[apparently lucky eddie]

Alan, I have to say you're a better politician than i'll ever be! I don't think I ever had the pleasure of any of those machines you mentioned. My brief racing career was on 250 Greeves,250 Suzuki,TD2 Yamaha (jeez that was scary!), 250 Aermacchi, 250 & 350 Ducatis.How did you ever manage to bounce? I never did that, all I ever did was slide up the road on my arse, or in the case of Paddock bend, down the road on my arse!

[greaser]

Firstly Eddie [I take it from your racing history you maybe Eddie Wright who sells RE's]
Well I take offence at your rude & rather arrogant post !!!! Ive been riding bikes as long as you matey! & at 63 still riding like a good-en... But I guess you can only sell these days ?

I bought the 535 Enfield GT because I like the old school café racer & the 535 looks the part, I did not expect a real speed machine [had all them in bucket loads] so as I mentioned previously performance wise its just not good enough for 2014 motorcycle, I did expect a bit more, not when my old 1966 250 GT was much faster...40 odd years on & the Indian RE have gone backwards with the performance.

Alan
You are right I am not a mechanic,I love riding motorcycles but not fiddling them,I pay someone else to do that,when I find the right capable firm that is, unfortunately there's no one I know in Sheffield who knows RE's, but I will get it sorted eventually, if Hitchcocks were on the door step I would obviously use them to do the work.
My Thruxton is Brilliant, Not like the Gixer 1000 or the Duke 961 that I have had previously & like I said before I have now changed to suit my age & mainly comfort, like many at my age getting a bit stiff in the old joints, but I am still on it!!!

The other bikes you have mentioned in your post that you think I might Suit me,sorry but not for me,I have a particular taste for different bikes, just like yourself will have.

[Beezabryan]

If someones wishes to mend something that is not broke until it is they are fully entitled to do so. Their bike, their money, it's been done before & it will be done again. .... remember the guy in the north west somewhere who spent a small fortune screwing up a perfectly good 350 Bullet?

[apparently lucky eddie]

No,pal, not Eddie Wright, and not rude, and not arrogant. The word you're looking for is accurate. And quite apart from any other motorcyles I have or have had, including Brit built RE's, I have 35 years experience of INDIAN enfields. The new 535's are plodders made to look like cafe racers, Enfield are supplying what their punters - including me - want. They advertised and you took the bait. Yes, they've got slower and heavier due mostly to EEC and other world wide anti-pollution legislation. I rode a 350 bullet back from India circa 1980, it was 100% reliable all the way back and would leave a modern, possibly less reliable, bullet for dead in the traffic lights grand prix. But time moves on. I'm terribly sorry if your modern, new bike is n't quick enough, you should have road tested it longer, insisted on a 24 hour test. No doubt Mr H. will soon have plenty of go-faster goodies to sell you, oh, but you'd had enough of going faster had n't you....Enjoy it for what it is mate, a pose, a sheep dressed in wolfs clothing!(sic) Or maybe these bikes just ain't for you. Sorry but as I've said, I'm no politician or diplomat (you'll be used to that up Yorkshire way) just like you're no spannerman.