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By STU
#17679
I've just seen a brand new SYM 125 sports scooter parked outside the local chip shop - its natural environment I think. It was a very smart and seemingly well finished job which, according to the number plate, was supplied by the local Kawasaki / Piaggio / SYM dealer.
The Speedo was marked in Km/h ONLY. I don't think that we have anything to fear. SYM are a Brighton GB based outfit who claim to design and market the Far Eastern produced bikes for the UK market.
Perhaps different laws for N.I though?
By Alex.
#17680
Hey guys, I was certainly just having fun with my comments, Norm, I'm sure you were too! I have no idea what a Motrax is, or where to find it, my speedo reads mph, near enough for me, and that's all I know!! Now for the funniest part - I may be selling!!! I am moving to a place with limited storage and as a 'hobby bike' I don't want it sitting outside, so if anyone (north of the border probably, as I am near Glasgow) is looking for an Electra X (a good 'un!!!!) let me know. 2005 Electra X, british racing green, 9000 miles, new MOT, new roadrider tyres (amazingly good) - this would probably be £2400 or so in a dealers, if I can get near £2000 it will be sold. Photo in the gallery (taken this summer), e mail [email protected] for more info.......
By Crusader
#17681
Hi All. Keeping to the subject (not a slanging match or sales pitch for Electras) there are lots of interesting points on this subject. We all know the speedo is not tested in MOT tests in G.B. (slight variation in N.I.) as all the comments have made clear.
The real concern that Adrian & Mickey have raised is that it appears NOT TO BE LEGAL TO SELL A NEW VEHICLE/MOTORCYCLE first registered in the U.K. after March 1984 without a 'dual reading' speedometer. I know Enfield & other brands have done so but a clarification of the law would be interesting. We may yet have the same problems as Adrian. Ben.
By Alan R
#17686
Hi all---- just had a read through the VOSA manual from the link supplied and have these 2 extracts from the "Introduction",----A1,History of the Mot. section 2 = 2012 – checks of secondary restraint systems, battery and wiring, ESC, speedometers and steering locks.------and then--- A2, Background to the Test,section 4 = Northern Ireland has a separate scheme covered by different regulations, and vehicles with valid certificates issued there are exempt from the scheme applicable to the rest of the United Kingdom....................Well, I never knew that !!Another quirky thing from the history of these Islands...My Brother-in-law, a Historian by profession, reminded me that the "Official" title for the UK is actually}-----The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.... so I had a look at this}----http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom ----which says, amongst other things "----and has the world's seventh-largest economy by nominal GDP", PLUS} "----and its military expenditure ranks fourth in the world". Interesting.
By Alan R
#17687
---------ignore that last bit about the military spending etc,---just me thinking out loud...Keeping to the MoT theme etc, if we think our(Enfields etc) MoT costs are bad how about our friends on historic mopeds/autocycles which are no more than push bikes, being charged the full amount(I know from recent threads that local "variations"---let's call it common sense--- can sometimes apply). As vehicles are Taxed according to a set hierarchy then so should not the MoT charges also reflect the varying types/sizes presented for testing, other than just generic types as at present?? ie a more tighter grouping of vehicle sizes and pro-rata fees to match.
By John M
#17694
Alan R, the MOT charges are the maximum that can be charged, it is up to the individual garage how much they actually charge up to this maximum. I know that many garages who charge the full amount imply that they are compelled to charge that amount by VOSA, but this is not true.

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