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#797
Something that has been available on the market for a long time now is a banjo bolt with a built-in pressure activated switch for activating the brake light on hydraulic brake systems. I was just thinking to myself that I wonder what the switching pressure is on them and if it could be used to control a low oil pressure warning light... I'll have a think about how this could be achieved because it would need a N/C type relay in there and possibly some sort of damping circuit to prevent it flickering on and off with fluctuations in oil pressure at low revs. So the light would come on if the switch remains open for longer than say 5 seconds.
#14707
Hi Stinkwheel. The best place for a pressure sensor is on the delivery feed side. If you fit the pressure sensor on the scavenge side, the engine could be wrecked before the scavenge side showed any unusual drop off in pressure, apart from the fact that there is very little pressure anyway and whatever occurs is very spasmodic as you have realised. It is quite easy to fit a threaded adapter and oil pressure sensor on the filter cap and have a bright light mounted in the centre of the handlebars to illuminate when pressure drops below a couple of pounds. The filter chamber sees the full delivery feed pressure at all times...Ideally you would want another cap cast with a boss just off centre at an angle and threaded to clear the central nut. Another way is for the adapter to be formed on a special nut to replace the standard nut, that is hollow and allows the oil past the cap centre hole. The pressure sensor could screw in sideways to the adapter....I am very surprised that Mr H does not make up one for sale...ARE YOU READING THIS ALLAN......I'LL HAVE 10% OF YOUR PROFITS ON THIS BEST SELLING ACCESSORY PLEASE..... LOL!!!
#14716
Yep seen that way of doing it before BUT...on the Indian machines the bulge on the end of the filter cavity is just a rounded off protusion. Are you saying Allan sells modified timing cases as I have never seen them. The end of the bulg would have to be hacked off and a new hollow extended stud made up to allow oil to get into the bulge from the cavity which also has to be threaded to accept the pressure switch/sensor. By using a modified end cap or end nut no mods have to be done to the timing case...just swap the cap over to the new one with fitted sensor. Try again Leon.
#14718
Hi Les: Allan`s switch is a one-off as far as I know. I prefer the oil temperature gauge which will move rapidily to over-temp if the there is a problem, as happened to me when the oil level got too low and it heated up; the gauge being on the right-hand indicator stalk is in full view whilst riding so I could stop in time to check it out. These other s are really useless, as they can`t be seen when the rider is on the bike, which is when they are needed to be seen.
#14722
Hi Leon. I used to think that oil pressure gauges or warning lights fitted to engines with plain bearings were superfluous in that if one suffered an oil delivery or pressure failure the engine would be wrecked within seconds of it happening. In fact I had an old Velo LE that I used to run around on a dirt track. One day I knocked a hole through the external oil pipe it had but I wanted to get it home. Within less than 5 seconds the engine had seized solid. However with an engine with all ball and roller bearings there is a chance that with a warning you could shut down the motor quickly enough to save it without hardly any damage to the bottom end, there might be some scuffing of the piston surface but at least the warning saved some great expense which is definitely worth having. Experiments were tried at one time where an engine had the oil supply to the crankshaft diverted past the oil pump and the centrifugal force of the big end spun enough oil out of them to lubricate the big ends just as well as having the pump working. Of course this could only work when the engine was revving highly. Unfortunately if the Bullet pump when not working (oil spindle stripped) the piston pump would block the oil flow instantly and the plain bush (floating) big end would be wrecked or severely damaged. Even an oil pressure gauge is probably not that useful if you think about it. We would know the recommended oil pressure but what would you do if the oil pressure was low? It would not seize and the engine would carry on as before until the big ends became too rattly, which is why the oil pressure was low in the first place. The low pressure would not mean that the engine was short of oil circulating, so the rest of the engine would be getting plenty of lubrication perhaps even more than when the oil pressure reading was high as a high pressure usually is blowing oil off through the relief valve. (I know Indian Bullets mostly don’t have one) So even with low oil pressure you might as well continue to use the bike until the big ends completely wore out. So all in all it’s hard to see the value of warning systems, perhaps ignorance is bliss, or does a stitch in time save nine? On balance if it gives the rider some relaxation and a feeling of confidence that all is well down below, maybe that is a thing worth having especially or perhaps only if the warning it gave was so clear and obvious that an instant engine shut off could be done. Perhaps wiring it into the ignition system to shut off the engine automatically would be best, but it would need bypassing to start the thing...Oh well…Nighty night.
#14724
The only point worth checking is quill bolt pressure and if you check that you will realise you shouldn't be riding it because once the oil warms, pressure is so low all you do is worry about it.

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