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By JOHNNY SINGLES
#784
Here is one for the technical minded.
Has anyone thought of changing the standard main bearings in there bullet to tapered roller ones as used on the Velocette Viper/Venom and thruxton as these seem to be a lot stronger and last a very long time. These bearings need to be fitted with a preload but only about .005in, would this be a problem?
By Les H
#14604
Hi Jonny. Velocette chose taper bearing as they were impressed by the low wear rate they seemed to achieve and they stood up to the side thrust created by the helical cam gears.. Initially SKF advised them to use self aligning taper bearings but due to assembly problems tried to use ordinary taper bearings. Unfortunately as the crankcases heated up the expansion created slop in the bearings with too much end float so Velocette opted to preload the bearings at cold temperature so when at running temperature the end float was just right as the crankcases expanded and relaxed the tightness. Taper bearings were never designed to run with this amount of pre load but this is only maintained for a fairly short time. Even expert engine builders find setting the preload difficult and with too much, there are many cases where the bearing has been pushed through the crankcase wall. Some engines have been modified to use “top-hat” inserts to spread the side thrust on the bearing housings. Quite a few owners now use high quality conventional roller bearings rather than taper bearings in the Venom motor!...So it would not seem a good idea or have any advantage to fit taper bearings in a Bullet motor. The Bullet engine does have the advantage and strength of a roller bearing on the timing side…many British singles only have a bronze bush. You need to keep the 6305 ball bearing on the outer drive to give the crankshaft some positive alignment for end float but you might be able to get a “maximum capacity” type bearing for this position which is a bearing fitted with an extra two or three balls to increase it’s load capabilities. Whether self aligning roller bearings that have barrel shaped rollers (Called Superblend in Norton parlance) that can now be bought would be an improvement I don’t know but they are usually very expensive. You will have to do some searching or phoning the bearing stockists to find out
By JOHNNY SINGLES
#14606
Yes Les, getting the correct preload on the bearings is paramount but I have in the past rebuilt a number of velocette motors and never had a real problem with getting the correct gap in the crankcases before bolting them together. Velocette specify .004in but have known some owners to have .010in preload on there bearings and the motor has run sweet as a nut. It was just a thought.
By Les H
#14609
The point I was making as regards pre-loading was that 1) the Velo engine requires it due to highish end thrust loads...Bullet engine has less (only oil pump worm) 2) The Velo engine was designed to take high pre-loading yet still can have problems with weakness in the crankcase side walls that hold the bearing. The Bullet is less likely to have the necessary crankcase end thrust strength just accidently... surely?...but there is only one way to find out...I was just giving some tips as regards the original bearing set up without going to pre-loaded taper bearings.
By Norm
#14618
I see no need because once you replace the ones with "Made in India" stamped on them there should be no further problems

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