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[Alan R]

--------------JESUS H !!!!! Wots gawn ronga now ??????? I had successfully copied the question I had asked in the E-bay listing AND transferred it onto this screen when writing that last posting BUT it seems to have got lost in the ether-----------AGAIN !!!( it was placed between those > marks for clarity. I asked for the Eng. No.-----the frame No.-----the registration No.----adding that "It's so I may do some checks" and added that "I'm sure you understand why"?.... Be interesting to se what transpires.

[sab]

It seems that some of you have access to a list of engine and frame numbers. Any chance of checking this out for me:
Engine: G13670
Frame: G27 35347

Seller says it's a genuine 1955 Bullet 350. Does that seem correct?

Thanks.

[Mark M]

Sab, something not right about those numbers. The frame number should not have a prefix, just be a number. The engine number should start G2 if it's a 350 Bullet. Get the seller to check. I'm working on a 55 350 right now so have a good idea what the numbers should be! Is the bike in UK and can you post link to pictures?
REgards, Mark

[Chris Tindal]

Mark my 53 frame has the G2/ prefix, upside down to the frame number!

[Mark M]

Chris, thanks for that! It was in about 1955 that the practice of pre-fixing the frame numbers with the model code stopped and my late 55 350 doesn't have it but my 53 500 does! The other numbers Sab posted still look wrong although they're not far off the correct range. This is proof of how important it is to get the frame properly dated by the REOC!
REgards, Mark

[harry b]

hi this is harry i think the numbers should be more accessible as when you hear of a enfield for sale you have not got time to write off to the owners club the seller will say someone else is coming to have a look the decision to buy is then a person wishing to change engine frame numbers has time to write to the owners club just my opinion thanks

[MadMike]

Sab, having read this thread a number of times it seems to me, as a non-Enfield owner, that you should apply the same rules as buyers of all classic bikes. If the numbers appear dodgy, and I accept that some old bikes will have had engine changes in their lifetime, and those with knowledge of these things confirm that it is dodgy then the turd rule applies. "If it looks like a turd, feels like a turd and smells like a turd then it almost certain to be a turd". Put another way if it appears, as this one does, to be almost certainly a pile of bits, and you want a genuine bike then move on and find a genuine bike. There are plenty out there to choose from. Spend your money wisely and you will not regret it. I for one, on the basis of what I have learned on here, would not touch it with a proverbial barge pole.

[Alan R]

----and to further clarify the issue SAB, have a look at this }-----------http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/S286-PC-RP-Ma ... ?pt=LH_Def -------------

[sab]

MadMike - you say there are plenty of genuine bikes out there, but how do you know they are genuine unless, as Harry says, there is easier access to frame and engine number records? Where is the best place to find 'genuine' bikes for sale?

[MadMike]

sab, if you want a genuine bike then why not start on this very website? Check the regular magazines such as Real classic, Cleassic Bike etc. RC has their bikes, but no pictures on line, try your local Enfield Owners branch if you want an Enfield. Other one make clubs are available. If you want a oarticular make, BSA, Norton etc then research the machines. Roy Bacon has published many fine books to help and these invariably contain details of model changes, colours, trim and engine/frame numbers. Join a local relevany one make club. Whatever you do make sure you do not buy a bike "unseen" and ride the thing before you decide. A fool and his money are soon parted, make sure you look long and hard, and if you are uncertain what you are looking at then get somebody who knows to examine the bike with you. Check the paperwork and ALL receipts if you are buying from a total stranger, then assume he is telling porkies until you actually find out the truth. As my good lasy always reminds me "earn it once, spend it once"