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By ericpode
#91720
The red car is at fault. I'm sure I have read in the Highway Code (about 40 years ago)

Never overtake at or approaching a junction.

I recently was in the same situation as the yellow car and got a fright when I pulled out in front of a van turning left like that lorry. Disaster was avoided but I learned a lesson that I will never forget after all my years of riding for I was also at fault.

Never pull out in front of a vehicle if you cannot see what is coming up behind it.

Blaming the roads authority is a cop-out. We should be capable of driving safely with or without any markings at all.
Last edited by ericpode on Thu Jul 23, 2020 6:28 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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By stinkwheel
#91723
Yellow car at fault, he has to give-way to traffic on the main carriageway. The way is NOT clear, the view of the road ahead is obstructed by the lorry and he should wait until he can see where he's going, he's driving out of a junction into a blind spot.

I have a similar one every morning on my way to work (except worse because it's a staggered crossroads with a stacker-lane). I'm effectively where the yellow car is and someone overtakes the traffic approaching from my right regular as clockwork, either because it's moving slowly or is indicating to turn into the junction. They just pull out onto the hatchings for the stacker lane and drive past. To go without seeing the road is clear would be suicide.
By Andy C
#91726
I would say the red car - you dont overtake on or near a junction.

However if the yellow car had pulled out they would also be to blame as they pulled out in front of an oncommig vehicle - I always wait for any oncomming vehicle to clear the junction.

Sureley this tells us not to overtake approaching a junction, and always wait until an oncomming vehicle clears the junction before pulling out.
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By Chris [Stockport]
#91731
I suppose the yellow car thinks that the lorry isn't too close, if it's slow enough, no chance of it hitting him.
And wouldn't be expecting someone on the "wrong" side of the road, ie the red car during its overtaking. ??
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By stinkwheel
#91732
One of the drivers had right of way, the other did not. The clue was on the big triangular sign with the red border.
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By windmill john
#91736
Looking at the picture again, if it is to scale-ish, then there is only one lorry length to the junction. Yellow car wrong.
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By Wheaters
#91738
Chris [Stockport] wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:52 pm
Can you always see that there's a junction ahead...
Presumably a sign would tell you?
If there’s no actual road sign on a pole, there should be centre road, “hazard” white line markings. Not enough people in UK understand their meaning, possibly because they aren’t properly publicised.

Difficult to tell from those drawings, but both appear to have them. Long centre white lines, with short gaps between them, mean “hazard”. Rule 127, Highway Code.

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