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Opening Pandora's (tool) box
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 9:51 am
by papasmurf
Is it just me or is it impossible to repack the tools in a motorcycle tool roll, and put it back where it is carried on the bike.
I gave up on my wife's Suzuki Intruder, and I have made the mistake of taking all the tools out on the tool roll on my Electra X (ish).
I doubt if I will be able to put that back either.
Opening Pandora's (tool) box
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:18 am
by Mark M
But they're not for actually using! The new bikes I've had were mostly supplied with crap tools as standard, I think the only thing that worked in any of them was the spark plug spanner. And the Suzuki Bandit didn't even have that as the plugs are so far down a tunnel in the liquid cooled cylinder head it would have to be a foot long. The toolkit on the current BMW is actually good quality but still needs supplementing with better quality Allen keys for instance. On the Enfields (Redditch) we're a bit luckier than many other British makes, for routine maintenance including wheel removal you only need a small number of spanners.
REgards, Mark
Opening Pandora's (tool) box
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:45 pm
by papasmurf
Many years ago my wife had a 250cc Cossack Motorcycle,(from new.)
It developed a gear box fault (when out of guarantee.) I was able to strip the gearbox with the tool kit provided, (and repack the tools and fit them back on the bike.)
Plus the gearbox was repaired with a bit a clock spring to replace the flat spring that had broken.
Opening Pandora's (tool) box
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 2:23 pm
by Rattlebattle
Yes, I still have the toolkit that came with a Lada I owned back in the eighties. It even included an inspection lamp. BMW tools may be good but you don't get many these days - how about an Allen key to remove a panel. Same with my Triumph - one Allen key to remove the seat. To answer the OP - yes, it's you, you haven't got the knack or have added some tools.....
Opening Pandora's (tool) box
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 2:51 pm
by papasmurf
Rattlebattle, no extra tools involved. I suspect it takes a child working in a foreign sweat shop to do the original packing.
Opening Pandora's (tool) box
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 3:10 pm
by Andy M
OE tools go in the box of stuff to be saved until I sell the bike. I make my own tool rolls to take the higher quality, correct sized stuff. The UCE tools are a worse joke than usual, they include such rubbish as 3 inch long tyre levers when the TL Avons need a bead breaker. They seem to be tools for an older bike.
Andy
Opening Pandora's (tool) box
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 3:16 pm
by papasmurf
Andy M, they seem to be tools made for use by someone with the strength of an Orang-Utan or a Gorilla.
Opening Pandora's (tool) box
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 9:33 pm
by Scalyback
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Well, I only have the usual small space in the toolbox for the toolroll, but it does contain:-
Large and small Lucas girder adj. spanners
Tecalemit grease gun
5 spanners (4 Whitworth and 1 septic)
stick pressure gauge


Champion spark plug feelers and bender
Strange looking Enfield spanner
'nother strange looking Enfield spanner
set of 3 nesting box spanners (6 whit sizes) and bar
Spark plug spanner
2 Enfield tyre levers
Enfield screwdriver.
It always rolls up a treat `and goes straight in the space for it!



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Opening Pandora's (tool) box
Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 6:20 am
by Eezzee
As Rattlebattle said, on a modern Bonneville you only get one Allen key, for removing the seat, but the real beauty of that is that its kept behind a side panel, which is held on by a screw. If the screws is too tight to remove with a coin you need a screwdriver (not supplied) and of course you only know about the existence of this Allen key after reading the owners manual, which is kept in a pocket under the seat, which you need the Allen key to remove.....
Opening Pandora's (tool) box
Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:01 am
by PeteF
I once tried to use the tyre levers that came with my Bullet. Looked like Uri Geller's workshop.