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A lovely little ride out......

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 8:07 am
by Gaz262
Took Effie out for an unhurried, gentle jaunt into North Lincolnshires back roads last weekend.
It was wonderful!
The sun was out, the birds were singing and the bike ran as sweet as a nut!
We went through Brigg on the old A18 and headed towards Elsham on the B1206, then took a left along the B1204 through all the villages & hamlets to South Ferriby and the A1077.
We followed this alongside the Humber estuary until the old Roman road (B1207 or Ermine Street) to Appleby.
Followed the road until the railway line & signal box at 'Appleby Lincs', then took the next right and rode up through Santon Villas onto the steel works and out through the other side to home.

All the bikers I saw were smiling & many waved, some with more enthusiasm than others! From Elsham until the Steelworks, we never saw another car, (?) which was a bonus!

It wasn't that far out but when I got back to ours I felt sort of 'fulfilled' as Effie had never missed a beat all the way. She desperately needs a Power Commander to help smooth out that lumpy pickup though.

Where's your best ride?

A lovely little ride out......

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 12:30 pm
by Mark B
The Lincolnshire Wolds are some of the best riding roads I know (except for the one week when the council have their annual gravel-strewing competition). I'll be up there next month for the Morini Riders Club's track day at Cadwell, and a few of us are going on a local tour up to the Humber Bridge the next day. Can't wait! (Although I won't be on the Bullet).

A lovely little ride out......

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 12:45 am
by jefrs
Smiling bikers? = flies in mouth. Been there ... there's these hard little beetles past the stud farm, gack!



Dunno, I occasionally get walkers (pedestrians but on lanes) wave to me, not just bikers.

Horse riders can be more than a little dozy, I reckon they should have rear view mirrors, fortunately a horse can see to the rear and I can (cof) ride a horse. I don't count anything with a number on it as a back road ;)


One lane recently resurfaced through a village with loose grit was, interesting, like riding on a shingle beach.


Is it compulsory to double de-clutch and change down when you pass under a bridge?

A lovely little ride out......

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 8:49 am
by RayBeech
Hi Gaz, don't know where in Lincs you are but I took my power commander off (about 1 year old) and put a carb kit on. It is all there and perfect but I chose "another way" I am just outside Lincoln, let me know if you are interested (£150.00).

A lovely little ride out......

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 8:56 am
by PeteF
Ray, there was a thread a few days ago from someone wanting feedback on carb conversion. I notice it didn't get any replies. I thought your experiences might help.

A lovely little ride out......

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 10:24 am
by jefrs
IMO the Power Commander alone is not perfect. Alone the PCV provides smoother pickup and more torque up a wider power band. I am finding that adding the Autotune AT-200 is providing smoother cruise and a cure to popping on the over run (around 2500rpm). However it is a work in progress since I need to establish a baseline air fuel ratio of the ECU and the Hitchcocks map before fixing the numbers in the AFR table and applying Trim. In other words I don't as yet know what the AFR should be set to. I am still gathering data by making best-guess at the oem ECU AFR and examining the Trim after a run. From there I should be able to calculate the AFR of the Hitchcocks Fuel Map and then make adjustments to the cruise zone and kill the popping, I have already found how to kill the popping in one experiment, by closing the injector off at that point.



It sounds complicated but it's not although one does have to be able to makes sense of tables of numbers. This is probably not for everyone so a carb conversion may be a good option. A carb can provide the correct mix 98% of the time, idle tends to be very rich. Although a carb may lack a little power of the injector they can provide smoother performance. I actually like carburettors a lot.


The PCV alone appear to provide fixed injector metering for rpm and throttle opening, it doesn't adjust for barometric pressure or whether that throttle is being opened or being closed. Adding the AT-200 allows it to adjust the AFR (mix) in real time rather like a very good carburettor but far more customisable, the mapping is almost infinitely variable (something like being able to alter the taper of the needle or the jet size on the fly).



With the Hitchcocks mapped Power Commander you get a Fuel Map and Ignition Table, the AT-200 adds an AFR Table and calculates Trim (to the Fuel Map). Problem is you have to know what the AFR should be, that is not provided; fuel mapping (pulse) to AFR conversion is not provided, no notes or formulae.



Work in progress. As and when I get it sorted (I'm getting there) I'll write something on here which should help anyone with the AT-200 and those wishing to fill in the blanks with the PCV



Probably the wrong thread to bring this up (again) but Gaz262 did mention the PCV. Enjoy your rides :)

A lovely little ride out......

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 10:41 am
by Gaz262
RayBeech; I'm about 30mins away in steel town starting with 'S' (heheh!) -
Drop me a line on gary(dot)stevenson(at)capgemini(dot)com about the Power Commander mate.-
jefrs; I need to consult you when I obtain a PCV unit.
Cheers guys!
Gaz

A lovely little ride out......

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 10:42 am
by RayBeech
didn't see that Pete, only just back from away, I will have a look and see if I can offer any help