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Turning Right

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:35 pm
by Chris [Stockport]
Wondering what would happen here. Can't find anything official about it?????
Could, of course, just as well be bikes as cars.
Any helpful thoughts for the yellow and red car drivers?

Re: Turning Right

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:54 pm
by Breezin
The party to blame at Point X is the roads authority. It should have a continuous white line on the approach to the junction.

Re: Turning Right

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 3:03 pm
by papasmurf
In that situation it is in fact NOT clear to the right, I would wait until the lorry cleared the junction.
Being in the right and being dead is a pointless exercise.

Re: Turning Right

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 3:19 pm
by Chris [Stockport]
Well, I agree with you both.
A solid line would be helpful, though here's a picture from the Highway Code.

Re: Turning Right

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 3:22 pm
by papasmurf
The motorcycle is far too close to the car.

Re: Turning Right

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 3:28 pm
by Chris [Stockport]
.... the picture really SHOULD have a caption mentioning it's too close, YES!

Re: Turning Right

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 3:44 pm
by PeteF
The red car is overtaking at a junction.
The yellow car nipped out too close to the lorry (unless it was really crawling)

Re: Turning Right

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 5:11 pm
by windmill john
The bike picture example where the bike could either have been more to the left so the green car could see him, or, the rider is aware of the Green car about to come out and makes adjustments accordingly... like not overtake suddenly!

Re: Turning Right

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 5:22 pm
by Chris [Stockport]
I think the lorry is a bit close because of the size of the paper I used...

Re: Turning Right

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 6:08 pm
by Wheaters
A year last Easter I came upon an accident scene where a VW driver had just pulled of of a car park as a car approached to turn in there. The rider of a big Kawasaki tourer was in the same position as the bike rider in that second picture. As the VW driver pulled out, the bike hit its front, submarining under it.

Not surprisingly, the rider was injured. I soon came to the conclusion he had possibly broken his pelvis, the paramedic thought so, too. We had to move him out of immediate danger (it was on a busy main road, which was partly blocked and some other drivers just sped past, very close by, as we were extricating him. Thankfully, a trained paramedic was in the queue of traffic just behind and she cared for him until the ambulance came, which took well over 30 minutes. Myself and a fellow biker took on traffic duties, to help out the lone policeman who came out. We were there for over an hour.

It showed just how dangerous it is for a driver (or rider) to pull out of a junction just ahead of approaching traffic.