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[Mr Grumpy]

It is possible I suppose some of these bikes are as old as advertised but i bow to wiser heads if nor correct this is on You Tube f0r example

http://youtu.be/yJN142xwnNA

[Mr Grumpy]

I must re read before posting one or two clerical errors there!

[Norm]

What we have established is that the frame number is probably from 1965, what we are not sure of is if all the 1965 ones have the same frame number lol

[Mark M]

70's 350. Paint and chrome do not make a genuine bike even if it's being sold as such. REgards, Mark

[Mark M]

70's 350. Paint and chrome do not make a genuine bike even if it's being sold as such. REgards, Mark

[Chris Tindal]

So what's the verdict? These bikes are obviously mainly or wholly modern, but how are age related numbers obtained? Do the Indians supply original 60's log books as evidence of age, grind down the modern frame number and re stamp the old one on? If the VMCC are issue dating letters, what are they using to date the frame?

I know the Lambretta Club of GB will issue a dating letter just on a pencil frame rubbing and don't take into account the cycle parts. There seems to be some disparity as to what determines the age of the vehicle. The DVLA have a points system, the engine doesn't count for much, it's mainly the frame, forks, wheels and hubs if I remember rightly. Clearly, who ever issues the dating letters isn't taking into account the whole bike.

Good job my 1953 framed bike already had a V5 when I built it, it's a right hodge podge of 'Enfield' bits

[Mr Grumpy]

If its done like the attached U Tube link then it would seem its perfectly legal and proper but possibly not all company's are as up front and honest as this one?

http://youtu.be/yJN142xwnNA

[Alan R]

Hi guys----------OK, so which is the worst offender of these two Enfield Bullets}-------a) A genuine 1965 stamped frame that's totally fitted-out with an "Iron" engine, modern running gear etc........or b) A modern frame that's re-stamped as a 1965 manufacture and totally fitted out with all genuine 1965 engine, running gear etc........ ??...Obviously b) is the "offender" as re-stamping is illegal, but isn't a) what those Indian chaps in the video are doing ??............................. I other words I could just re-frame my current 2005 Classic 500 with a genuine 1965 frame and hey-presto !! an instant tax-exempt classic ??

[Chris Tindal]

Alan, so your saying my 1953 framed bike is 'illegal' because it has a later Indian engine and cycle parts?

[Scalyback]

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