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[stevewatkin]

Simon and Les, was a pleasure to have you with us. Chuggy was very happy to have a real name now and not just "the enfield" any more

Great pictures too.
Most of our antics can be found on:-
http://www.c90club.co.uk (have to register there)
http://www.midlandbullets.co.uk/smf/index.php Midland Bullet riders
http://www.meetup.com/London-Motorcycle-Riders-Club/ LMRC meetuup,

The pointy direction thing is known as the Drop off system or
Corner man system.

There is a full description on the C90 Club or LMRC (where there is even a video of it in operation).
http://www.meetup.com/London-Motorcycle ... an_System/

Or you can read it here;-


The Cornerman System

Cornerman System Explanation

LEAD RIDER: In charge of the ride, he determines where each Cornerman will mark a spot, the direction of ride, stopping points and what to do when there are problems. He will set the pace for the ride, and will ensure he always has enough riders behind him to fill the Cornerman positions.

TAILGUNNER: The last Rider in the group, he is in charge of "sweeping" the ride, waving each Cornerman on, helping to locate missing Riders, helping with any breakdowns or injuries, and for informing the Lead Rider of any problems. The Lead Rider and the Tailgunner are kept in contact via mobile phone where necessary.


WINGMAN; There will normally be between one and four Wings on a ride, depending on the size of the group, Wings are there to assist the Ride Leader in keeping cohesion and tightness within the ride group. They will also help out in any emergency situations, where traffic control is required, or for the relaying of any communication between the Ride Leader and Tail Gunner.



SUMMARY

The Lead Rider indicates to the Rider behind him to become the Cornerman at any point where there is a change of direction (roundabout, corner, t-junction, etc.);
• The Cornerman will stop safely and signal to other Riders the direction taken by the Lead Rider;
• The Cornerman will remain at that point and keep an eye out for the Tailgunner, and will then rejoin the line only when he is waved on by the Tailgunner;
• Always follow the line in front of you and do not take any deviations or shortcuts unless indicated by a Cornerman;
• Where possible please try to keep the Rider in front of you in sight, i.e. try not to allow long gaps in the line. If you are not a confident Rider, or you are on a slower bike, then move to the left and motion for the Riders behind you to pass until you have only the Tailgunner behind you, that will take any pressure off you to go any faster than you want to. The same applies if you don’t want to be a Cornerman, just stay near the back of the line and others will pass you and take on the Cornerman positions.
If you become separated from the group, remain where you are and contact the ride leader, he will then safely stop the ride and send back a wingman / or tailgunner to collect you, please have your exact location ready.

Leaving The Group Early

If leaving the group early and to stop other riders following you thinking they are following the direction of the ride, please follow the routine described here;
Slow down or pull over if safe to do so ensuring you are positioned so as not to have other members of the group think that you are marking a corner. Wave them past if necessary, When you see the tailgunner approaching ensure you wave him / her past , this is the signal to identify you are leaving the group. You are now free to take another route without the risk of being followed by other members of the group.

[stevewatkin]

OMG this bloody message board doesn't keep the spacing and paragraphs the i typed..........sorry

[Scalyback]

the board does that.



It runs on html code!



I'll try to redo it tonight, but also busy sorting film out!

[Scalyback]

How It Works


Each group will have a designated ‘Ride Leader’ and a ‘Tail End Charlie’. The positions of these two riders will not change throughout the run. They will be introduced to all the riders in the group at the start of the run, when the leader briefs the group on the ride.



Whenever or wherever there is a change of direction at junctions, and all roundabouts, the rider, (now referred to as "Marker"), immediately behind the leader will indicate the direction taken by the leader. He stays as a Marker for all the following bikes. To do this, the Marker should pull in at the side of the road, in a safe place where he/she will be visible to the rest of the riders, so the direction can be indicated to all the following riders. It is most important that the Marker stops in a position where:-


1 It is safe to do so.

2 They do not put themselves at any risk.

3 They do not obstruct any other road users.

4 The rest of the ride can see them clearly as they approach the direction change.

5 The Marker should clearly indicate the direction taken by the leader, using, if necessary, indicators, hands and or bike.


When the Tail End Charlie approaches the Marker, the Marker should take up position in front of the Tail-End-Charlie. The Tail End Charlie should leave enough space for this to happen. If it is not safe to pull out in front of the Tail End Charlie then the Marker should re-join the traffic when possible and take up position in front of the Tail End Charlie as soon as it is safe to do so. It could happen that the number two rider (The Marker) forgets to mark a direction change - in which case the next rider (Number three) should take it upon themselves to be the marker, and mark the direction change to prevent the chain from breaking.



This approach involves the entire group and the Marker gets rotated from front to back and naturally moves up to the front again.



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Some points:


• If you are unsure on any aspect of the ride, always ask advice or clarification. Safety is always paramount.

• Please arrive with a full tank of petrol and an empty bladder. Inform the Leader if you are running low on petrol during the ride.


• If you are unsure as to whether you should mark a junction, and then mark it anyway. It is better to mark a junction that doesn’t need marking than not to mark one that does.

• A roundabout, or crossroads where you do not have priority, should be marked by parking in a safe visible position on the exit. Should a junction or roundabout not be marked, the default action is to continue straight ahead.

• There is no need to play catch–up. With the drop off system there will be a Marker waiting for you at the next junction.


• Everyone should keep a safe distance behind the rider in front. A staggered riding formation may be adopted where appropriate to aid forward visibility and transit through traffic lights. Avoid ‘follow my leader’ riding / convoy style riding, which could lull you into unsafe / unaware riding – ride your own ride.


• When you are the Marker, wait for Tail End Charlie to arrive, even if this takes a long time. There may be a breakdown further back which you are unaware of. If necessary switch off your engine. If you leave your position everyone behind will suffer and the run will fall apart.


• The group may sometimes become very ‘strung out’, causing anxiety to some riders. The Leader may then decide to stop, in a safe place, to allow the group to re–form before continuing.


• If you want to leave the group, inform the Leader and Tail End Charlie at a rest stop. If unavoidable, you may pull in to the left in a safe, visible position and wave other riders past; when Tail End Charlie arrives he will stop and you can then inform him/her that you are leaving the group and why.


• Riders are reminded that they must obey all relevant UK road traffic laws and, if and when appropriate, those of other nations. They are to observe the Highway Code and heed the warnings displayed on roadside signs and signals (e.g. Local and national speed limits).


• And finally, be sure to listen to your Ride Leader before the start of the ride to ensure he has not made any changes to these procedures. Obeying these simple rules will ensure that our ride outs will be safe and pleasurable.

[Les]

[center] Some video of the ride out



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[Scalyback]

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Scaleyback and Tornado present...



Highlights from the recent breathtaking (and piss-taking) Hoo Peninsular ride.