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Certificate of conformity

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:30 pm
by PEK
Hi everybody
I live in France and I bought my second bullet, this time in Italy, but I only have got the Indian certificate of conformity (and the italian immatriculation card). As the motorbike was first imported in UK before going to Italy I would like to know if there is a chance to find somewhere in Great Britain an institution that could have kept a copy of the europeen homologation certificate or any other document that would help me to show to the french transport ministery that the bike has already been homolgated in Europe. . thank you for your help. Have Nice rides.
Pierre-Emmanuel.

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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:32 pm
by Tim NZ
What year is the bike? Older bikes did not come with such documentation at all...


Conformity certs are/were issued by the factory for EACH bike, and have the VIN number on the document, and it is relevant to that bike only. Typically the document is retained on file by the registering authority. The factory does not and never has issued duplicate certification, nor does it provide conformity certification for the domestic model bikes. Nor are generic 'photocopies' accepted.


IF the bike was originally imported/registered in the UK, prior to going to Italy, then there will be an official record of it...


Alternatively, you may care to contact the previous UK importer, Watsonian Squires; their records should confirm all...

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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:54 pm
by Adrian
I think W-S ceased to be the UK importer around 2013, after that Moto-GB?



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Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:50 am
by PEK
Thank you very much for your help. My bike is from 2006 (if i read the vin correctly) son i will contact watsonian squires)
I will Tell you...bye

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Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:21 am
by Mark M
It might be possible to find out from the UK vehicle licensing organisation (DVLA) details about your bike, try this page: https://www.gov.uk/request-information-from-dvla The information is a little vague and my guess would be that they'd want the UK registration number which you might not have but it is possible (should be!) that they could trace it through the VIN number. Good luck,

REgards, Mark

Certificate of conformity

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:59 am
by Bumble
Hi Pierre-Emmanuel, I went through the process of obtaining the European Certificate of Conformity for my 2008 Indian built 350 Bullet to be able to register it in France. Initially I contacted the UK's DVLA (Driver & Vehicle Licencing Agency) however they said they didn't hold the document and it was not provided by the manufacturer when the vehicle was first registered at the DVLA. I was told by a friend to contact the importers, Watsonian Squire. I did this by e-mail in 2013 but received no reply. I subsequently phoned them but also received no reply. I was told they are often very busy so I sort of gave up. Having taken my bike to France I decided to get it type approval tested with the Dreal - the French organisation that validates vehicles. I start the process and took the bike down to the appointment for it to be inspected (no charge at this stage) and although they were very helpful it would have meant that I needed specific information from the Indian manufacturer to proceed, which I didn't think would have been able to obtain. On the off chance I telephoned Watsonian Square again and magic Chris answered the phone. He was very helpful. On enquiring about the CoC for my bike he said yes, we may have it depending if the bike was imported through us, if India supplied a CoC (sometimes they were missing and couldn't be replaced) and if no-one had taken it before. Chris checked his computer system and confirmed they had imported the bike. Then he went through the process of checking stacks of CoC's and there it was! Chris put it in the post to me and I received it by first class post the following day.

I next obtained a Certificat D'Acquisition D'Un Vehicule Terrestre a Moteur from the Service Des Impots Des Enterprises to confirm whether there was any import tax - that depends on a mileage / age combination. I took this with my UK V5C (UK registration certificate) to the Prefecture where I initially offered a colour photocopy of the CoC to the nice lady behind the counter who looked at it for half a second and passed it back to me and said "original please". At that point I handed over the CoC and it disappeared - probably to be never seen again (I advise you take a good colour photocopy for your own records). I was then directed to the cashier who took my 70 euros and issued me with a Certificat Provisoire d'Immatriculation. This is valid for a month and enabled me to get the registration plate made to the number that the bike had been allocated. I got the registration plate from Feu Vert. The full Certificat d'Immatriculation arrived in the post the following day - even though this was over the Christmas / New Year period.

I understand now the registration process is all done on line so I don't know how the original document bit goes, anyway the bike now has its French plates and goes around the smooth curvy roads of the Dordogne quite happily.

Below are the contact details I had for Watsonian Squires:
Address: Unit 70, Northwick Business Centre, Blockley, Nr. Moreton-in-Marsh, Gloucestershire, GL56 9RF, UK
Tel: 01386 701162
E-Mail: [email protected]
Opening Hours: 9am-5pm Monday to Friday, 10am-4pm Saturday

Hope this helps and good luck and happy biking.

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Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:10 pm
by Mark M
Thanks Bumble, that is the sort of really helpful reply that makes being on this site worthwhile!

REgards, Mark