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Crusader swingarm

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 2:32 pm
by mart
Hi i have an issue with a Crusader swing arm spindle. when I tighten the spindle the swing arm locks up. the metal sleeves in the swing arm bearings lock against the swing arm plates on the frame. it seems the rubber bushes wont turn/flex - any thoughts please? thanks

Crusader swingarm

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:27 pm
by Adrian
As I understand the movement is provided by the rubber (bonded between the steel inner and outer bushes) in torsion, which is why the inner sleeves should protrude beyond the outer. If the inner and outer sleeves BOTH lock up against the swinging arm plates you'll get no movement.



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Crusader swingarm

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:05 am
by mart
thanks Adrian - only the inner sleeves protrude and lock against the frame plates which, I assume, is how it should be. so does this mean that the rubber bushes have gone hard?

Crusader swingarm

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 1:36 pm
by Adrian
If there's no movement at all, I'd say you probably need new ones, how old are they? A.

Crusader swingarm

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:12 pm
by mart
dont know how old- I bought the swing arm some time ago- forgot to say its a crusader sports part if that makes any difference - difficult to do? thanks

Crusader swingarm

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:26 pm
by Mark M
There should be a thrust washer (46265) each side between the frame plate and the swing arm. You didn't mention it so I'm checking to see you have them. If not the frame could be clamping the swing arm solid.

REgards, Mark

Crusader swingarm

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 7:16 pm
by mart

thanks Mark - do you mean the round 'inserts' that fit into swingarm plates? the inner metal bearing sleeve is tight against these inserts

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Crusader swingarm

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 7:25 pm
by mart
from the parts book it looks like its a Continental GT s/arm- not Crusader Sports ( oops! )

Crusader swingarm

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:47 pm
by Mark M
Yes Mart, and that may be your problem, the earlier swing arm (bronze bush type) is wider than the the later Metalastik (rubber) bush type so you might be clamping the assembly completely solid. You can email me for more info at trials59 (AT) yahoo (DOT) co (DOT) uk if that's easier and I can also point you to a Yahoo Group for 250 owners.

REgards, Mark

Crusader ( Conti GT )swingarm

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 5:30 am
by mart
if the rubber bushes pose a problem I would prefer to change the design to the Classic type. I can turn up some bronze bushes and hopefully utilise the Classic spacer (part 3) subj to dims etc


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