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Amal Concentric MK2 jets
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:10 am
by Phil Ashbrook
Does any body know the best jet sizes for an Amal Concentric MK 2 32 mm for a Classic Bullet engine bored out to 535 cc , sports cams , free flow exhaust , the cylinder head has been extensively ported and I cant get it to start , spark plug is allways dry no mater how hard I try to flood it . My jet sizes at the moment are 220 main with a 106 needle assy , a 45 pilot ( was 25 ) and a No:3 slide all sucking through a S&B air filter , fittings are new , total main jet distance from head is 98mm compaired with 35mm when I used the Amal MK 1 Carb for 10 odd years , the old carb rattled and was primitive but effective , I'm in the dark on how to start the bike with this MK2 carb , its cold start is utilised but no wet plug ! Any ideas from owners who have done the conversion .
Amal Concentric MK2 jets
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:44 am
by Mark M
Phil, I am building a Bighead 535 project with a Concentric Mk2 (which I bought from a small ad in the VMCC magazine so needed jetting info,) and Hitchcock's suggested AS A START POINT: (I stress this is just an approximation to begin with...) Slide 3, Needle jet 106, main jet 250 and pilot jet 25. Hope this helps,
REgards, Mark
Amal Concentric MK2 jets
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:48 am
by Mark M
Oh, just a suggestion, when I've had problems with "Dry Plug Syndrome" I've found that removing the plug, squirting a small amount of petrol in the bore, quickly replacing plug and kicking may well get the engine running which will help diagnose the problems. It sounds as if there's a blockage in your pilot circuit or the petrol pipe or tap itself isn't allowing fuel flow.
REgards, Mark
Amal Concentric MK2 jets
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:46 am
by Phil Ashbrook
I found the manifold a tad warped and re faced my inlet flange on the head , used known type gaskets so that area is sealed , polished the manifold surface that mates with the rubber conecter pipe , all jets bar pilot are the same , I even put a 25 pilot in the 2 stroke possition replacing the blanking screw in hope of jucing it up , spark timing is bang on for a 200002 digi ignition unit , bikes been holed up for 4 years and I cant prove that the tales of it giving a bad advance curve hence the MK 4 version now recomended but still cant flood it which I have found very handy for tuned engines with big ports , the MK 1 would flood out with the tickler , I cant do this with the MK 2 , I've got something wrong , the 220 main was my MK 1 spec and with the 106 needle and tube , even with a 45 pilot , no change , I have the full Meth coversion kit ( not cheap ) with a 440 main jet , I could try a 300 but feel the float level is too low for starting , the float is Meth resistant nylon and would be hard to bend , any suggestions , could it be my slide cutaway , I need the cold start to gush it out when needed , this is in Sydney Australia so it never gets very cold , I think that the main jet is now 60mm further away from the head compaired to the MK1 , this makes it a pig to start
Amal Concentric MK2 jets
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:46 am
by Phil Ashbrook
All now good as I used the hand over the carb intake choke method , one big intake suck with a bit of throttle and cold star lever deployed , inch over TDC switch on and kick right though like a Gold Star with a tad of throttle , now running I can fine tune but I think it needs this proceedure and that means the S&B air filter must be off for starting , this is the age old stuation of starting tuned engines , the BIG Head 612 with Fury ports and GP 1 1/2 inch carb and race crank magneto would rank as the hardest Royal Enfield engine start you can get .In such a case I would get a speedway engine starter .