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Questions on 1961 500 Fury

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 6:04 pm
by Fury61
After beating the Royal Enfield around the local tracks for about 40 years I decided to clean it up and after a letter to Graham Scarth I found it to be a 1961 500 Fury in a 1957 700Indian Trailblazer frame. The bike has a rear sprocket that bolts to the hub instead of it being one piece, a Mikuni carb and the rear of the frame seems different than pictures. Can anyone tell me if the Indian frame is the same as Enfields, if they've seen a sprocket and carb like this before, why someone would combine this motor and frame, could this have been a crate motor, how many were made, does a Lucas N1 magnetic mean it was never street legal, and is it worth putting about $1,000 to make it pretty again being as it will still just be ridden around local fields and tracks? It is still great mechanically just needs cosmetics. Also what fluids are recommended for clutch, tranny, oil and front forks?

Questions on 1961 500 Fury

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 10:45 pm
by Knobby
Hi!
A few quick answers.
The bolt-on sprocket is correct for the Fury. The rear frame is likely from a Trailblazer (matching the frame), but without a picture I couldn't say for sure - the Fury ones are available from our host. The Indian Trailblazer frame will be almost identical with two exceptions - the front down tube lug on the Fury should be the "big lug" and the rear passenger peg hangers will be attached at an angle. The Indian frame would have the smaller down tube bottom lug and the rear passenger peg hangers will be parallel to the ground (minor points, both). Otherwise, for all intents and purposes, identical.
A Mikuni carb is a common change - the original GP carbs are finicky at best and expensive to replace if lost or worn.
All Furies came with an N1 mag - does your bike have an alternator? They were available with or without lighting (so with our without alternator).
Clutch should be ATF Type F, trans is 80w90, and front forks either 20w motor oil or 20w fork oil (preferred).
I can't answer the spending money part - if you want to restore it, you can always restore it in off-road trim, but the non-matching frame may affect value anyway, so I'd just build it the way you want it.
Good luck!

Questions on 1961 500 Fury

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 10:27 am
by Chris Tindal
Never knew what 'big lug' meant. By lug do you mean the cross bar at the bottom of the down tube? Also which models had this and which didnt?

Questions on 1961 500 Fury

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 7:19 pm
by Fury61
Great info. A few more questions though, I don't see a listing for points for the N1, are they available at Hitchcocks, is there a trick to changing oil and filter,what weight oil should be used, I'm planning on using a racing oil with zinc and do you know the production numbers on the 1961 Furys both crate motors and complete bikes? Thanks for all your help and the "Beast" will live again. Tim

Questions on 1961 500 Fury

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 7:41 pm
by Adrian
Tim,

Questions on 1961 500 Fury

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 7:47 pm
by Adrian
Tim,



for some reason half of my message disappeared, I also said that if our hosts can't provide a set of points any magneto specialist local to you (I assume you're in the USA, Furies are quite rare over here and tend not to be used for dirt track racing) should be able to help, or else you could google for UK specialists. I also assume you already know these guys: http://enfieldracing.com/



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Questions on 1961 500 Fury

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:39 pm
by Fury61
No I didn't know of them. It sounds like they run in Ohio not far from me. Thanks for the info. Tim

Questions on 1961 500 Fury

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:09 am
by vince
Hi fury61, I'm a bit confused, you asked 'is there a trick to changing oil and filter?' Are you saying in 40yrs of beating around the local tracks you have never changed oil or filter
Vince

Questions on 1961 500 Fury

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:35 pm
by Fury61
Vince, I had never heard of a Royal Enfield or a Fury when I bought it for $100, just knew it was fast and would beat the heck out of the other kids bikes and had no access to parts or internet growing up in rural Indiana. I did change the oil regularly but had no idea where to get a filter. Everything on the bike is untouched and as it was when purchased except for the tires and chain. You can tell the bike was raced hard at one time around Buchanon, Michigan and last year decided to bring it out of the basement and clean it up when I was told what it is. I'm currently trying to figure out what parts are Trailblazer and what's Fury, need to be ordered and submit it to Hitchcocks. I admit I'm still learning and appreciate all your help. Thanks, Tim

Questions on 1961 500 Fury

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:42 pm
by Fury61
Actually, after thinking about it I've had the "Beast" for about 50 years. Tim