difficulty selecting neutral when stopped

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difficulty selecting neutral when stopped#5347

By papasmurf - Thu Jul 23, 2015 9:10 am

- Thu Jul 23, 2015 9:10 am #5347

I am having difficulties selecting neutral when stopped at traffic lights and similar, (2006, Electra X five speed gearbox.)
It isn't the clutch, which does not drag or clip, and engaging 1st to pull away is a smooth operation no clunking or grinding to engage.
Any ideas for a cure?

difficulty selecting neutral when stopped#49561

By Dennis C - Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:09 am

- Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:09 am #49561

"It isn't the clutch", I would bet it is the clutch,99.9% of not able to get neutral when stopped are down to the clutch or the primary chain too tight, if you can select neutral before the bike stop's then 100% clutch.

difficulty selecting neutral when stopped#49562

By PeteF - Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:19 am

- Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:19 am #49562

Here's a little test.
Can you slip it into neutral just before the bike comes to a halt?
If so it IS the clutch dragging a bit.

Classic C5 Euro 4 at the moment.
Also CBf250.

difficulty selecting neutral when stopped#49563

By Adrian - Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:26 am

- Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:26 am #49563

The 5 speed box is a nice piece of kit, but I find its normally smooth operation deteriorates if there's even a little too much free play in the clutch cable. Taking up any slack at the adjuster usually restores it, unless the cable is fraying at the clutch end prior to the nipple coming adrift (my Electra-X still has the pre-2007 clutch actuator).

Somewhere quite low down on my bike to-do list is fitting a hydraulic clutch conversion for the 5 speed box. I have found what might be a suitable slave cylinder.

A.

difficulty selecting neutral when stopped#49565

By papasmurf - Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:27 am

- Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:27 am #49565

I can engage first when at a stop and no brakes applied easily with no crunches grinds or leaping forward.
I can't say the same for any of our other motorcycles.

difficulty selecting neutral when stopped#49567

By Dennis C - Thu Jul 23, 2015 11:01 am

- Thu Jul 23, 2015 11:01 am #49567

"I can engage first when at a stop and no brakes applied easily with no crunches grinds or leaping forward".

Unfortunately that doesn't mean a lot, try the test as I and Pete suggest, if you can select neutral easily with the bike still moveing the the clutch/primary chain are your problem.

difficulty selecting neutral when stopped#49573

By papasmurf - Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:38 pm

- Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:38 pm #49573

It isn't the clutch or the primary chain, those have just been checked, as part of a service.
The bike has also been test ridden by someone who really is an expert. He suspects the same as me, the selector cam.
I am still however open to suggestions. It is something I can live with.

difficulty selecting neutral when stopped#49579

By Dennis C - Thu Jul 23, 2015 4:34 pm

- Thu Jul 23, 2015 4:34 pm #49579

Can you select neutral easily with the engine stopped?.

difficulty selecting neutral when stopped#49582

By papasmurf - Thu Jul 23, 2015 5:32 pm

- Thu Jul 23, 2015 5:32 pm #49582

I wouldn't call it easily.

difficulty selecting neutral when stopped#49583

By Adam - Thu Jul 23, 2015 5:33 pm

- Thu Jul 23, 2015 5:33 pm #49583

When my Electra X had a knackered clutch release mechanism it was near impossible to select neutral when stationary, worth a lookâ€¦ Do I remember this was covered in another thread quite recently? Posted by Adam