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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:33 pm
by phil the pill
hi first time I been on here I got a 08 electra x s it starts first kick when first start but when I use the elc starter it makes a noise like its not engaging it will start after a lot of button pushing some times the starter will engage but sounds like its not firing when I do get going if I stop and try to start it is a job to start whith the kickstart or elc start I have put a hitchcocks tci unit on new battery spark plug and cap help any surgestions

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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:26 pm
by Norm
Here we go again

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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:25 pm
by Thack
Indeed, Norm!



Phil - it sounds like the starter sprag clutch (a freewheel device) has failed. Very typical on Bullets from that era. Later ones have a stronger sprag clutch.

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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 9:38 pm
by Scalyback

Sorry mate...


Learn to kick it!.


You can of course replace the sprag clutch, but they generally fail. Best option is not to use the leccy start, and to remove the remains of the sprag soon, before it breaks up and causes damage inside.

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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:04 pm
by PeteF
Those sprag clutches are just not fit for purpose. You are better off without it unless you really can't manage without an electric boot. There are two kinds of electric start Enfield's, those where the spray has failed and those that are going to.

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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:41 pm
by Adrian
Regrettably the weakness of the sprag clutch is the commonest source of aggravation on this model, removal of the offending item and just using the K/S, as outlined above is a permanent solution, rider health permitting. The big end has also been known to fail prematurely on this model due to occasional poor hardening of the crankpins, and the the cam follower stems are more fragile than the classic Bullet. Fixes are available for these woes, which, once sorted, actually result in quite a decent machine.



A.

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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:59 pm
by Norm
Adrian, still the Edsel of Enfield land lol

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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 1:09 am
by Thack
Hey, Adrian, could you outline the fix for the more fragile cam followers? I've had one fail, and I didn't realise there was a fix - the dealer just installed a new one.



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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 3:30 am
by Norm
Thack I fitted Bullet ones in mine but that is a difficult job and not something I would expect anybody else to attempt

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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 9:37 am
by Michael
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.... not again :( As others have said, remove your sprag clutch before it breaks up (which it IS doing - trust us) and use the foot. You do have an option of replacing the sprag with an original part (not worth the bother - it will just break too becuase the issue actually lies elsewhere - ignition timing) OR you could replace the sprag with abeefier one AND put into place the timing TCI alteration recommended by Hitchcocks. Search for Electra X sprag clutch and it will reveal all :( Sorry