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350 to 500 can it b done ?
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:23 pm
by silverfox
hi ive got an all alloy 1956 bullet trails bike , ive recently fitted a period chair , as above can i upgrade by simply changing the piston and barrel ? , thanks in advance Russ
350 to 500 can it b done ?
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:40 pm
by Paul M H
In simple terms no there is a lot more work than that involved including stripping engine right down and machining crank cases for bigger barrel throat & welding up barrel stud holes and drilling in correct place new carb new exhaust reworked crank. Just to name a few things
350 to 500 can it b done ?
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:09 pm
by Norm
and a 500 head
350 to 500 can it b done ?
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:10 am
by Chris Tindal
I once did it years ago with some spare 500 cases. As everyone said, different head, barrel, piston, conrod, flywheels, cams and gearbox sprocket. I did it with 500 cases and it was still very costly, to machine some 350 cases (which are the same casting) as well makes it seem not worth it. Its possible, but cheaper and easier to find a 500 engine.
350 to 500 can it b done ?
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:58 pm
by John M
You're mad! Have you had it off road yet?........... I had a trials sidecar on an old SP400 Suzuki, loads of fun in the snow, but an evil handling pig the rest of the time.........We managed to roll it at least three times and it always rolled over the front nearside corner, ejecting the rider with the bike coming over the top to follow........My only constructive suggestion would be to gear it down loads, get the smallest gearbox sprocket available and a large detachable rear sprocket as supplied by Hitchcocks......You may lose out on top speed, but it is probable that it won't pull much in fourth anyway.......Good luck!
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350 to 500 can it b done ?
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:56 pm
by silverfox
Thank u guys , not the answer i was hoping for tho , yes i shook it down at canada Hts over the w/e , and yes i nearly had it upsidedown twice LOL , top speed on the road is 35ish , i built it into a outfit for the Arbuthnot in 3wks time , i didnt want to mess with the engine too much and now i wont touch it at all , hitchcocks have told me its a real works bike , 1 of a batch of 24 , i found it in a shed 12mths ago been there 12 years , thanks for ur help Russ
350 to 500 can it b done ?
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 1:10 am
by John M
Any chance of some pics? I am particularly interested in 1956 works bikes as mine is a 1956 350 with a non-alternator pre-56 500 style bottom end. It has a slim timing chest without the auto-advance bulge and looks like the engine in HNP331 except it is aluminium rather than magnesium.
350 to 500 can it b done ?
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 3:56 pm
by Vespa66
Hi Russ , I actually have a late 50's early 60's 350 bottom end that's been newly converted to 500 already ,
[email protected] if you want to discuss.
I appreciate this is "parts" guys and not supposed to be used on the site however as this is a unusual spare I hope I am forgiven for posting !
350 to 500 can it b done ?
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 7:17 pm
by Vespa66
I Meant the 350/500 engle with crank and new bearing/twin bearing was for sale Russ !
Thanks guys
350 to 500 can it b done ?
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 8:52 pm
by silverfox
Hi John , yeah im happy to send u some fotos , im looking forward to meeting someone that can go over it cos i dont really know what ive got , it does have Magnesium chain casings tho . Russ