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[McMurdo]

what price a Metisse JAP streetscrambler, I wonder?

Probably follows the rule - "If you have to ask then you can't afford it"

[mauri]

Thanks for the advice - I was going to address the front at the same time. I saw mr Waller was a fan of rock shocks too

Have you got experience of using either of these brands? If so what length of shock did you buy?

the length of the rear shock depens on what you'll do with the front suspension!

but with a standard indian bullet frame, and standard sprockets you'll be limited to 320mm.
or as BW mentioned you will have to fit a automtic chain tensioner, and also a chain guide on the front of the swing arm(or your chain will saw through your swing arm), and a guide wheel on the top of the chain.
as the swing arm flexes up past the mid point(neutral) the automatic chain tensioner stops working and the guide wheel will take over.

and also if you change the rear to more off road/trial(softer) use, you will have to adapt the front also.
or an inbalance will ocure, as the standard hard springs in the front will transmit more to the softer springs in the rear!
upsetting the rear suspension in doing so.
always keeping in mind the weight distribution!

NJB are from what i now in the past, non revisable and made of steel --> hence cheaper

[Adrian]

what price a Metisse JAP streetscrambler, I wonder?

Probably follows the rule - "If you have to ask then you can't afford it"

I notice the Metisse web site also lists a Royal Enfield option (pre-EFI, presumably) under their Mk3 frame kits... Quick stock-take and valuation of surplus kidneys required.

http://www.metisse-motorcycles.com/part/

A.

[gnasher]

just bought some rockshocks for my redditch bullet 320mm in length, mr waller has used 330mm on his but he has yamaha forks fitted mine are standard bullet with softer option springs, note on the later redditch frame the passenger peg lugs need sawing off to fit longer shocks.

[McMurdo]

just bought some rockshocks for my redditch bullet 320mm in length, mr waller has used 330mm on his but he has yamaha forks fitted mine are standard bullet with softer option springs, note on the later redditch frame the passenger peg lugs need sawing off to fit longer shocks.

Hi Gnasher, I have so many questions for you … did you encounter any issues with the swing-arm or chain-run when using the longer shocks?

Also I'm curious about the "softer" springs. Can you say what they were? I would have expected that the spring still needs to support the same weight and therefore I can only think that these are dual rate/progressive springs that have a softer initial range and then stiffen up - can you enlighten me?

Finally, I would guess that the damping needs to be a lot softer on the front to allow the faster response to large rocks. What did you use and how have the standard forks performed?

Stuart

[philipw]

I have a 500 bullet modified for off road, the shocks I use are NJB with trials damping 330mms long. The rear tyre is a trials universal and the centre stand no longer reached the floor so I took it off. Good ground clearance now though. The Hitchcocks softer fork springs help too. Philip.

[McMurdo]

I have a 500 bullet modified for off road, the shocks I use are NJB with trials damping 330mms long. The rear tyre is a trials universal and the centre stand no longer reached the floor so I took it off. Good ground clearance now though. The Hitchcocks softer fork springs help too. Philip.

Thanks for the info Philip. Do you have a part number for these "softer" springs? Also what weight of fork oil do you use?

With these longer shocks did you have any issues with the swing -arm travel or the chain?

Stuart

[philipw]

Hello.
The part number for the fork springs is 144219A, and I use 5W fork oil.
The chain did rub on the swingarm at the end nearest the engine, so I made a plastic rubbing strip as on a modern dirt bike.
The whole idea was to achieve a softer ride for off road.
Perhaps the thing that made a big difference was much higher handlebars, this helps so much when you ride stood up.
The next thing on my list is folding footrest maybe repositioned as mentioned by others here.
Hope this helps, Philip.

[McMurdo]

Hello.
The part number for the fork springs is 144219A, and I use 5W fork oil.
The chain did rub on the swingarm at the end nearest the engine, so I made a plastic rubbing strip as on a modern dirt bike.
The whole idea was to achieve a softer ride for off road.
Perhaps the thing that made a big difference was much higher handlebars, this helps so much when you ride stood up.
The next thing on my list is folding footrest maybe repositioned as mentioned by others here.
Hope this helps, Philip.

That's valuable info - thanks Philip

[McMurdo]

Dammit!! Those springs are not suitable for my 2001 350!