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By Beezabryan
#18778
It is a filler plug and should not be so tight as to be immovable.... unless either last fitted by a gorilla or it has been cross threaded......No further word from Barney so do we assume that he has successfully done the job and moved on?
By Les H
#18779
Just a couple of extra points Barney. Check the ring spanner or socket you use does not have chamfered inner edges. Many of the modern type seem to have rounded edges which when used on a lowish profile bolt head tends to cause it to slip off much more easily, compared to most ordinary open spanners where the jaws are square right up to the edges. So try to find and a socket that has flush edges at its opening or grind down an old one....Also,...it is often worth trying to tighten up a nut or bolt just a touch more before attempting its removal as this initial movement allows an easier removal..it defies logic but it often works.
By Frank
#18780
Or leave well enough alone and fill the gearbox via the clutch cable inspection cap!
By Alan R
#18782
Hi guys------ Regarding the Metrinch System, ANDERS--- I think you might have missed the "point" here ( that's a v. poor attempt at a joke by a sad,auld git ie ME !!)--- This system is designed to transmit the torque via the centre---or as near to----of the flat. Please have a look at this }-------------- http://www.serenco.nl/en/Metrinch-text/ ------------------...They are not supposed to fit "exactly" and interchangeablity between the different thread systems wasn't part of the design remit either.. ...The designers have a demonstration in which they over-tighten a nut, grind all the corners off, then try first a Mono-Hex socket, then a Bi-Hex socket, then a Metrinch socket. Guess which one did the job ??......Yes, a ring spanner is generally the best tool overall BUT }----a) It needs to be one that is FLAT,(So the torque is applied in the same plane) not where the head is angled to the shaft(which tends to induce a twist to the spanner).. and----b)If there is the slightest clearance then we are back to "Point-loading" again, and I doubt if any production spanner fits THAT well ???...... LES H ('mornin there, matey !!) has picked up on an overlooked item Viz.}--- the slight taper at the edge of a socket or ring spanner....In some of the smaller sizes this can account for almost 1/4 of the depth of flat...Also, that slight turn clockwise does actually work in some cases !! ( Maybe not if Loctite has been used). Odd, but true.....Tut-tut, FRANK---Come-on, old son, that's defeatist talk.... Imagine this scenario}--- You're in mid-Atlantic, the ships' engines have stopped and that bolt HAS to come out. How are you going to do it ?? That's how I tend to view a job.... but then I'm Ex-RN Engines anyway. OK, I'll shove-off now.Heave-ho me hearties !!!!!!!
By Anders F. R.
#18787
Alan R: Yes, I see the point here, that Metrinch is shaped to transmit the torque via the flats. But so is other quality ring spanners too, in the correct metric or imperial sizes. E.g. my metric Kamasa Tools spanner set that I have had for 25 years. I think they call it "Optipoint" or something. In fact, I seldom see ring spanners with a plain hexagon or "double hexagon" anymore. Most if not all spanners have that "Optipoint" shape. I still find that more attractive, one spanner for each size, not some of them half a millimetre off. Unless I have to save weight or space, that is. .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-

And of course I am talking about a flat ring spanner (with only a very small angle, 15 degrees I think) between the ring and the handle and no "offset" to make it look like a socket. .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-

Of course, if you are "mid Atlantic" with no tool shop around, you tend to use whatever you have at hand, but I would rather bring the correct tools before i left the harbour...... .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-

Regards, Anders F. R.
By Alan R
#18794
Alas, ships---like a motorcycle tool box, are limited for space----submarines even more so !! so "Engineuity"(?)becomes the order of the day...How did we stray into this ??????????????? Sorry BARNEY.

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